Andrei,

GemStone/S and GLASS provides a free for commercial use multi-vm environment that provides "image-based persistence". With an annual license you can use multiple vms across multiple cores.

A number of folks using GemStone develop in Pharo and deploy in GemStone, so that mode of operation is realistic...

Dale

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
This is a good question. I don't have experience by myself but I can tell you 
what I think it is usually done:

1) For one CPU:

If the image don't need to be saved (no need of in image persistence) you can take 
the same VM and load N number of images running at the same .image. You can even 
not use .changes and .sources. Each image in different port. Then, you have in 
front of them a web server (Apache or friends) and you do load balance. The only 
thing you should take care with Seaside is to have AFFINITY -> the same client 
should go always to the same image while a conversation occurs. This is just a 
web-server setting.

2) For multiple core, I am thinking, maybe I am wrong, you may be able to load 
different vms. For assigning each VM to a particular CPU. I don't know windows, 
but in Linux (maybe I am wrong) I think you can specify where to exclusively 
run a process. The, for each VM you do 1).
Do you know if this can work?

Finally, there are different VM that aim not necessary multiple CPU but similar:

- COG VM
- Hydra

I cc'ed may developers of them so that they can help you.

Cheers

Mariano


2010/5/24 Andrei Stebakov <lisper...@gmail.com<mailto:lisper...@gmail.com>>
I've been really impressed with what Seaside and Pier were capable of and 
really wanted to start my new web project with Pharo.
I learned that Pharo (and most other open source ST implementations) only use 
green threads, having no ability to use a multi-core CPU systems.
For those of you with experience building mid to heavy load web sites, how do 
you expect them to scale up on using just one core?
Is Pharo a right tool for that?
Maybe Pharo (Squeak) has something up its sleeve to handle this, but my heart 
really sank when I learned about this issue...

Thank you,
Andrei

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