ST/X has some loyal followers, but it never really grabbed me.


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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] NativeBoost and Cog. A working protype.

2010/9/30 Stephen Pair <[email protected]>:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 30 September 2010 06:20, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > One really crazy idea: inline C.  Is there any way that one could put C
>> > code into a method, have it compiled and captured somehow as part of the
>> > image?  Perhaps I am underestimating Cog and will soon not need to bother
>> > with stuff like this, but a recent addition was
>> >
>> > void LogOnePlus(double * data, unsigned long size)
>> > /*
>> >        Add one and take log10() over the buffer; in-place
>> > transformation!
>> > */
>> > {
>> >        for(unsigned long i=0; i<size; i++){
>> >        data[i] = log10(data[i]+1);
>> >        }
>> > }
>> >
>> > That's a simple calculation, but do it millions of times and it adds up.
>> >  Even if Cog is sufficiently far reaching to translate such things, there
>> > are still times when C/C++ does a far nicer job of translating formulas 
>> > than
>> > does Smalltalk.  Like I said, it's a crazy idea, and if I have to choose,
>> > I'd rather have callbacks :)
>> >
>>
>> Of course its possible.
>> After porting C parser/compiler into smalltalk :)
>> Or perhaps some meta-language which looks like C, but which easier to
>> translate to native code.
>

Suddenly, this reminds me ST/X...

Nicolas

> Indeed.  It might be less work to just make the Smalltalk run as fast as the
> equivalent C code (using a bit of dynamic, run time optimization).
> - Stephen
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