For me the issue is not so much whether there there is another way to rename, but that it is "an _unexpected_ refactoring in disguise"

-ben

stephane ducasse wrote:
to rename a method without refactoring: just click on the method and in the 
method pan change its name and recompile

Stef

On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:25 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:

Yes, but the rename is *not* in the refactoring menu. It is *below*
the refactoring menu.
So, it is an unexpected refactoring in disguise...

There was a simple rename in 1.4 I think. Maybe can we get that one
back (in 3.0 of course...)

Phil

2013/2/20 Fernando Olivero <fernando.oliv...@usi.ch>:
Hi, i had the same misconception once, but i recall Lukas pointed out
that the refactoring engine is built on the original refactoring's
from Fowler's book, and implemented in Smalltalk by Roberts and
Johnson [1].

So the semantics of the refactoring are preserved in the implementation.

If you just want a method rename, not a method refactoring rename,
maybe is best have an option for that in the menu [2].


Fernando

[1] http://st-www.cs.illinois.edu/users/droberts/tapos.pdf
[2] or use a better widget for editing methods, than a simple code
editor within the pane of the browser, as in Gaucho..which i'm working
on.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote:
and you are right, scoped browsing is a very powerful feature that can be 
tricky to newcomers... but at least now with nautilus it is there, as first 
option (in OB it was there, but more or less hidden in a submenu)...
It is a small step, but is something... and well... we can improve in next 
releases, one step at a time :)

Esteban

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:52 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" <p...@highoctane.be> wrote:

Yes, thanks, I figured that out. A newcomer wouldn't... and renaming
is pretty common.

What will happen is that people will remove the method and recreate a new one.
Version history will then go away.

Or is the system smart enough to find out about these things?

Phil

2013/2/20 Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com>:
hi,

yes, you are right.. but that is a "nice to have", not a bug... so it will wait 
to 3.0 :)
In the mean time, you can do a scoped rename: you select the packages you want, then 
right click and "browse scoped", then you apply you rename, and it will apply 
the refactor in the scoped selection, not all the image.

cheers,
Esteban

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:21 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" <p...@highoctane.be> wrote:

Well, look at the screenshot then tell me that this is what I want.

It is definitively *not* what I want. Especially unchecking that
endless list of methods.

Adding a "Uncheck all" "Check all" button to the Changes Browser list
would help...

Regards
Phil

2013/2/20 Camillo Bruni <camillobr...@gmail.com>:
there is 1 certain bug, that is that you cannot see the changes of the 
refactoring:

https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7547

the rest I would consider a bug as well. But in the terms of refactoring it 
might
be "valid". It does preserve behavior by renaming also all implementors.

How about this reasoning:

Rename method
=> rename all senders (since you refactor)
=> you have to rename all implementors as well since you renamed all send sites
otherwise you'll run for sure into a DNU

I think I just convinced myself :D

On 2013-02-20, at 09:26, "p...@highoctane.be" <p...@highoctane.be> wrote:
I was doing a Refactoring>rename of the initialize method in Nautilus
for the ClassMethodBrowser and then the changes browser proposed me to
change all classes with initialize. WTF?

Phil

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