On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11 March 2013 16:39, stephane ducasse <stephane.duca...@free.fr> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do you know when monticello was invented?
>>>> and working for real?
>>> 
>>> Around 2004-2005 as far as I remember. And working for real at that
>>> very moment, I guess.
>>> 
>>> Why?
>> 
>> because pay attention when you talk about smalltalker reinventing the wheel.
>> So far with this argument we could say that we should all use eclipse 
>> because Java invented the ide, isn't.
> 
> In 2003, Monticello was the only game in town. It's now 10 years
> later. You need to reevaluate your decisions sometimes. Concentrating
> on application level stuff at the expense of infrastructure comes at a
> cost.

Apparently you did not read the documentation I wrote about the Pharo vision :)
too bad because I wrote it so that people understand that we are focusing on 
infrastructure.
This is already 3 years that we are focusing infrastructure. 
I suggest that you have a serious look at what we are doing. 

> In particular, spending time on better code review tools will in
> the long run accelerate your development velocity.

Yes may be 

> This is supposed to be a key Pharo trait. Now note: I said "spending time". 
> That MIGHT
> mean reinventing github's features. That MIGHT mean giving Camillo and
> friends free reign to integrate git into a Pharoer's workflow.
> 
> But this kind of passive aggressive attitude is seriously
> counterproductive. Because you're _not_ just telling people to shut up
> and contribute. You're just telling people to shut up.

Ahhhh you were talking to esteban :)


> At any rate, Esteban, people _are_ working on Smalltalk/github
> integration. Some of them are actually Pharo devs!
> 
> frank
> 


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