On Mar 11, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11 March 2013 16:39, stephane ducasse <stephane.duca...@free.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Do you know when monticello was invented? >>>> and working for real? >>> >>> Around 2004-2005 as far as I remember. And working for real at that >>> very moment, I guess. >>> >>> Why? >> >> because pay attention when you talk about smalltalker reinventing the wheel. >> So far with this argument we could say that we should all use eclipse >> because Java invented the ide, isn't. > > In 2003, Monticello was the only game in town. It's now 10 years > later. You need to reevaluate your decisions sometimes. Concentrating > on application level stuff at the expense of infrastructure comes at a > cost. Apparently you did not read the documentation I wrote about the Pharo vision :) too bad because I wrote it so that people understand that we are focusing on infrastructure. This is already 3 years that we are focusing infrastructure. I suggest that you have a serious look at what we are doing. > In particular, spending time on better code review tools will in > the long run accelerate your development velocity. Yes may be > This is supposed to be a key Pharo trait. Now note: I said "spending time". > That MIGHT > mean reinventing github's features. That MIGHT mean giving Camillo and > friends free reign to integrate git into a Pharoer's workflow. > > But this kind of passive aggressive attitude is seriously > counterproductive. Because you're _not_ just telling people to shut up > and contribute. You're just telling people to shut up. Ahhhh you were talking to esteban :) > At any rate, Esteban, people _are_ working on Smalltalk/github > integration. Some of them are actually Pharo devs! > > frank >