Thanks Clement for pushing this :)
On 2013-03-29, at 17:44, Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I integrated Phil's fixes. You can edit directly the wiki page by clicking
> on the top right corner button 'Edit' ;-). Thanks Serge Stinckwich for your
> contribution.
>
> The English wiki page should now be refactored and corrected too. You could
> put back some data from the previous page but as it was almost only about
> Squeak/Pharo difference or license issues ...
>
> Some work is needed for the Spanish wiki pages. Does anyone speaking
> Spanish can do something about it ? Actually English and Spanish are the
> two most spoken language for international work so it would be nice to have
> these two pages looking good.
>
> To go further we would need a brainstorming on 'Why Pharo is so great ?'.
> It could also be used for the next Pharo-project website. Basically, what
> to tell to a newcomer that has from 1 to 8 years of java experience so he
> would be impressed by Pharo capabilities and would like to work with Pharo.
> To me, the main point is the efficient debugger that permit the edit and
> continue development cycle. I added it to the wiki. What else ? It would be
> nice to have examples, videos or tutorials for these aspects to show to
> newcomers.
>
> And don't tell me story about Squeak compared to Pharo newcomers don't know
> both of them.
>
> Regards
>
>
> 2013/3/29 Frank Shearar <frank.shea...@gmail.com>
>
>> On 29 March 2013 15:30, Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Interesting, this English Pharo wiki page.
>>>
>>> I quote : 'Pharo is now organized as a benevolent dictatorship of the
>>> community members who previously felt that they did not have enough
>>> influence. The members of the Pharo board are Marcus Denker, Stéphane
>>> Ducasse, and Sven Van Caekenberghe.'.
>>>
>>> I'm going to edit it a little to introduce Pharo in the page instead of
>>> having a bunch of critics against some people of the community.
>>
>>
>> I don't think the author meant anything negative by the term
>> "benevolent dictatorship". There are quite a few communities who
>> operate that way - Python, Clojure and Linux spring to mind.
>>
>> frank
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/28 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckw...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I tried to write some more stuff on the French Pharo wiki page :
>>>>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharo .
>>>>>
>>>>> I moved all the reference to history (birth of smalltalk, relation
>> with
>>>>> companies, forking) in the history section. I tried to focus the page
>> on
>>>>> How
>>>>> to use Pharo and Who uses Pharo. I would like the add a part 'Why
>> Pharo
>>>>> is
>>>>> so great' with all its nice features, which are kind of already in the
>>>>> introduction of the page but I don't know how to present it well and
>>>>> what to
>>>>> focus on. Right now it is more like 'It is smalltalk so it is great'
>> but
>>>>> not
>>>>> 'This is Pharo and these are the reasons why it is great' like they
>> have
>>>>> on
>>>>> Amber web page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me if you like the way I made the French Pharo wiki page I will
>>>>> translate it in English.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have somewhere a list of great features of Pharo to inspire me
>> so
>>>>> I
>>>>> can write it down in a section.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some more reference on how to learn Smalltalk would be nice too
>> (Adding
>>>>> to
>>>>> Pharo by example 1 & 2)
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Clement for your work. I agree with you that the Pharo
>>>> should be redesign massively ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we should talk on the french Smalltalk mailing-list how we
>>>> redesign the page ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Serge Stinckwich
>>>> UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
>>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
>>>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Clément Béra
>>> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
>>> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 Villeneuve d'Ascq
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Clément Béra
> Mate Virtual Machine Engineer
> Bâtiment B 40, avenue Halley 59650 *Villeneuve d'Ascq*
