Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

Is Find class (cmd-F) in the default browser not enough?
or typing in any pane the class and doing cmd-B

The problem I find with cmd-F is that if I'm already in the middle of typing a method - it wants to refocus my browser on the new class (often causing me to have to save changes that I'm not finished doing yet). AND - there is also no back button to go back to where I was typing my method (so I've lost my context).

So it would seem the "Pharo way" is to open a new browser window - but its not a smooth operation. Probably the closest is to start typing a class name where I am and then use o/e-complete (but then I often have to backspace over that text when I figure out actually what I needed to do). So it all feels a bit more awkward than it should be?


But I guess the bigger question is - how can you guys that know how to do this, 
impart the information and direction so that those of us following behind can 
meaningfully contribute without wasting your time?

I do not know what you imply exactly.
Now my point is that if you improve the tools we will integrate them.
I would really like to get better tools.


Some of your points in this message helped thanks - what I was trying to get at was, I was confused about which framework to learn and then build on. I keep hearing about lots of different things OB, Glamour... and then there seem to be several browsers (System, O2...) - so its not clear where to start? I also would want to do it in a way that fits "the vision" - but i'm not yet clear on what that vision is (I'm still learning)

Do you think there could be a How to Contribute to Pharo tools BOF at ESUG? 
What is the direction - is it OB or is it Glamor? How do you get started with 
OB, and what kinds of tools do we need?

- We need a better      
        Test Runner
        Monticello Browser
        (Benjmain did a better RecentMessageSet)
        Deeper Refactoring integration

If you want to help there is plenty of topics. For example helping at 
integrating my my package implementation

This list will give me a good starting point to talk to people at ESUG and hopefully I will "learn to fish" so I can help out more productively.

Again, I'm sorry to bother everyone.

Tim


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