I think its unrealistic to expect accurate numbers in any way other than
going outside and asking each coder what language he uses and for what
platform. None the less, its not hard at all to validate at least with a
substantial level of inaccuracy the numbers indicated by TIOBE , sure some
languages may jump 2 -3 spots up and down but still the general idea is
there. Mobile is nowhere near replacing desktop. And why isolate yourself
to TIOBE plenty of sources online to see what interests developers the
most.

The problem with mobile is that ergonomically it has no chance of replacing
desktop, well, ever. And even though new mobile devices come out with
substantial hardware specs, the quality of software is underwhelming even
if you compare it with desktop 10 years ago.  Even the trend of the "almost
dead" desktop developers that port their apps to mobile is to created dumb
down very limited apps of their desktop versions. I downloaded a first
person shooter the other day , a simple game nothing that could even
remotely compete with FPS behemoths of desktop or consoles , and I was
amazed how cumbersome it was to even operate for simple action of shooting
and walking around. I gave up after 20 minutes of suffering.

I think mobile is great for what it is , mobile. I was a big supporter of
iPad app as a musical tool in gearslutz forums when most musicians there
declared it as "overly expensive toy" , I made the extremely unpopular
prediction that it would be embraced by pro musicians and amateurs alike
and that was back when iPad was still a new thing. But to claim that it
will replace desktop , now thats a very bold claim.

I have an iPad and android phone and android tablet. I am a fan of the
mobile platform. I do believe in its potential. But killing the desktop, is
like any rumor including the words "kill" or "dead" an urban myth.


On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymc...@me.com> wrote:

>
> On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:33, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are those the same people that a decade ago were proclaiming Java dead ?
>  It only takes a walk to TIOBE INDEX to see how much of a threat mobile
> market is to desktop.
>
> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
>
>
>
> http://blog.timbunce.org/2008/04/12/tiobe-or-not-tiobe-lies-damned-lies-and-statistics/
>
>
> I am sure Angry Birds and Candy Crash Saga are substantial opponents to
> Desktop but I don't see Windows sweating from agony any time soon.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.den...@inria.fr>wrote:
>
>>
>> On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:11, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I fail to see how Windows prohibited iPhone from appearing or anything
>> in my quote saying that. They are not even in the same market.
>>
>> Yet, that old market is now in a very bad shape and people talk about the
>> “death of the desktop”.
>> You do not need to be in the same market if you can make the old one
>> obsolete.
>>
>>         Marcus
>>
>
>
>

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