> On 28 Dec 2014, at 19:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi, > > Just reviewing the old message I found this: > > [...] > > >> Finally, can we please stop using class browsers as examples? I know that it >> is easy (and cool) to use reflection to get lists of classes, protocols and >> methods but this only adds to the impression that the smalltalk community is >> self-absorbed and narcissistic. If you want to attract business developers >> then use examples that relate to the real world, not to the pharo >> environment itself. Why not a database example or a paint application >> example? No one wants to write a class browser - that's already available! >> >> Perhaps I should stop before this becomes filed under /Why is >> smalltalk/pharo so unpopular./ > > I mean to be constructive, some please be patient if I can't express myself > properly, but I have this impression of being "self-absorbed" on the > documentation of Agile Visualization. > > As I have said my workshops with people here are something like: > > 1. Wow! Pharo is so easy to install and to get beautiful visualizations. > 2. Where the data comes from? Ohh is mostly about the data that Pharo > contains about itself. How can I add new data? > > I think that we need a way to show that new data can be added easily. For > example would be nice to have a visualization about what happens on social > networks like twitter with a graph. and having ways to show data as tables > that can be editable more directly (like a spread sheet) instead of the > indirect manipulation of "static" data like the ones in earthquakes examples. > > I will try to help implementing my suggestions but maybe people working on > documentation could think about how to make it less self-absorbed with Pharo > itself and more around data from the external world.
I agree, there should be more examples about real-world stuff as opposed to meta information about programming. Of course, that *is* Moose's origin. Now, I have seen various examples with maps ... It should also be quite easy to load any public data in Pharo. We got HTTP(S) functionality, can open/read any file, parse CSV, JSON, XML and so on straight into objects. I am always willing to help if anyone struggles with any of my frameworks. > Cheers, > > Offray >
