> On 19 Jan 2015, at 20:00, <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> <jtuc...@objektfabrik.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sven,
> 
> I got Richard’s message about ESUG and I asked for facts. It seems you didn't 
> read my full post…

I did read it, it was well written and I agree with what you said.

But you were too polite, you give him the benefit of the doubt.

I don't think that I have to remind anyone of what ESUG means (now and in the 
past) for the larger Smalltalk community. I just do not even want to make that 
comparison, not even for the sake of the discussion.

> Joachim
> 
> Von: Sven Van Caekenberghe
> Gesendet: ‎Montag‎, ‎19‎. ‎Januar‎ ‎2015 ‎19‎:‎17
> An: Any question about pharo is welcome
> 
> 
> > On 19 Jan 2015, at 17:48, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote:
> > 
> > All that's been said so far is that some people do not like the use of some 
> > military terms, no matter where they come from and whether people know what 
> > these mean or not. We are not on a crusade, and this is not about 
> > conquering anything or anybody.
> 
> I am sorry, Joachim, but that is not true: he just said (ok, implicitly) that 
> ESUG is worthless. And he said many more quite hurtful things by stating 
> 'facts' or comparing (as equal or unequal) or rating different projects.
> 
> Yes, since he wrote his first 'essay', it seems that he knows more or less 
> what Smalltalk is, further than that I am sceptical.


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