I am not willing to create an account there but Phil, I must say I share
most things you wrote there.
Just some small things I would add.
1: One must understand that Smalltalk is a live empty OS that one can
modify with merely any rules or limitations.
2: One must be god if you can start implementing projects without
reading the MSDN library or any other programming language documentation.
3: Oppose to VisualStudio you can actually add a close button for
browsers according to you needs. Pharo does not prevent you from this.
4: Tutorial? This is a great introduction to get started. Try to
understand most of all concepts and syntax of a different language in
approx. 13 slides...
5: He learned how to execute code and does not know how to start an
application,.... well this is a flaw. Does the Tutorial ask for too much
genuity and should be extended by one sentence to clarify this?
6: Real tutorial, but maybe too complex for somebody who does already
want to play with repositories, socket communication and debugging....
point him at http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/
7: Doesn't the Welcome page point at the Help Documentation? It does
explain how to create "projects" doesn't it?
8: GUI looks old and is slow? +1 to him,... I also have a hard time to
sell it, but at least I am aware how much there is currently done...
9: If he really wants to get an idea on the size and complexity of
Smalltalk once could refer him to VASmalltalk and IBM's Programmers
reference,.... 2 1/2 years later he will have worked though it have
enough experience write his first proper lines of code and be a bad ass
Smalltalker 5 years afterwards....
I saw Cuis Smalltalk last weekend,.... I thing Cuis and a little simpler
might be the best introduction plattform to Smalltalk,... just raw
Smalltalk and switch by switch one can turn on features like a
repository, profiler, configurations, deployment,....
Just my 5cents
Sebastian
On 2015-04-29 11:11 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
put some replies.
maybe someone can add links to Kilon videos there.
Phil
Le 30 avr. 2015 04:50, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaring...@gmail.com
<mailto:emaring...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
I don't agree with most of the things mentioned, but I think its worth
looking at to see if there is something to actually improve.
http://www.reddit.com/r/smalltalk/comments/32xwmr/my_experience_with_pharo_40/
Regards,
Esteban A. Maringolo
