In Pharo I have Pharo/Smalltalk. Even a simple user can often
contribute in simple ways. Even as a simple user of a Pharo tool. I
can submit issues, fix simple issues, improve method or class
comments, etc. As I learn the Pharo tools and ecosystem I continually
improve my ability to take care of myself and also contribute to the
community. I think Pharo is the most user empowering environment I
have found. Sure I can find lots and lots of other quality tools in
other languages. But each is their own island. And depending on how
broadly I spread the net. Different languages, different cultures,
different licenses, all independent of each other.
I much prefer the Pharo ecosystem and culture. It is home.
I know others who like the other tools, and multiplicity of choice.
And they feel comfortable there.
Choice is nice. Pharo is mine.
:)
Thanks again for suggestions and for a view on how others approach
problems and their solutions. That is always available as inspiration
even within Pharo. I take a look at your stuff.
Jimmie
On 09/28/2015 09:03 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
Hi Jimmie,
Some or your searches/needs seem similar to mine. So I will share
some of the stuff I'm using or considering, which is not
Pharo/Smalltalk related and how I plan to connect it with Pharo.
On markup language and documentation I'm using pandoc[1], which
covers a wide variety of formats (including Html and LaTeX, like
Pillar) and works on Windows, Gnu/Linux and Mac with a pretty
portable installation. I use Zotero[2] integration vía BibTeX and
Citezen[3] using Grafoscopio[4], a custom made Pharo interactive
documentation system I'm building to learn smalltalk. On the website
generation, I was a user/promoter of web2py[5] for several year, but
recently I'm migrating towards static site genetators like Nikola[6]
and Grav[7] because I don't need any much else for my web presence.
[1] http://pandoc.org/
[2] https://www.zotero.org/
[3]
http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/citezen-EsugAwards2009.pdf
[4] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Offray/Grafoscopio
[5] http://web2py.com/
[6] https://getnikola.com/
[7] http://getgrav.org/
My idea is to build an interface from Grafoscopio to this non-pharo
technologies like static web site generators, so you can use the
interactivity of Pharo/Smalltalk, without having to reinvent the
wheel all the time (at least for wheels yo don't care about). I'm
trying to find the knowledge/time to put this ideas into practice.
Maybe you can consider some of these in your initial overview of the
problem and the solutions.
Cheers,
Offray
On 22/09/15 11:30, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
I know there are options to Pier. To a certain extent part of the
purpose of my email was to explore whether or not Pier is a viable
option and if it has community support that I am not easily seeing.
I want to stick with reasonably well supported options.
I thought the cms and blog parts of Pier looked interesting. This is
all personal and not for business or public.
I definitely want to learn Pillar as it is required if at some point
I want to contribute to any of the documentation. And it looks like
a pretty powerful tool.
I do not have any clearly defined goals which make Pier a
requirement. The blog and cms like features are possibly reasonably
implementable in the more currently supported options. And those are
simply things I am exploring not requiring.
It seems that Doru possibly uses it on the
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog site.
Thanks.
Jimmie
On 09/22/2015 02:38 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
Hi,
Jimmie Houchin <jlhouc...@gmail.com> writes:
I am interested in learning to use Pier. I browsed the mailing
list to
learn about current status and documentation. It seems to be pretty
quiet on the mailing lists.
There seems to be some activity on Smalltalkhub on Pier3.
Pillar, the document model and parser of Pier is alive. I need help
but
the project is definitely not dead as we use it for all books we are
writing.
The rest of Pier, mainly the web interface, looks rather dead for
me as
well.
Why are you interested in Pier? We might help you find other projects
that could suit your needs.
