I don't understand people today. They seem so brittle and inflexible, unwilling to open their minds and learn.
When I was fresh out of university, my only programming experience was with FORTRAN on mainframes. My first job was on the newest technology of the day: DEC PDP-11 <https://www.wikiwand.com/en/PDP-11> . Subsequently, I had jobs working on Tandem NonStop computers (GUARDIAN OS and TAL programming language), Modcomp systems and their assembler, Unix and C, VAX and DCL, AS/400, Windows, Smalltalk and Seaside, Python and web2py, Java and Android, Objective-C and iOS, etc. Each and every job was an exciting, stimulating learning opportunity. It was **fun** diving into unexplored territory. These various environments were quite different from one another. But I had no trouble adapting. The various programming languages had *substantially* different syntaxes. But I wasn't bothered. It took little time for me to get comfortable with each new language. So why is Smalltalk giving people conniptions? Are they really so spoiled? Re: today's IDEs (Eclipse, IntelliJ, Visual Studio, etc.). The problem isn't that they are so resource-hungry. It's that they're so damn complex. The file-based underpinnings, the "plumbing" if you will, is what have caused the design of these tools to evolve into complex behemoths. When you start with a clean slate, you can design a clean, elegant IDE without compromise. And that's what we have in Pharo. marten wrote > When we switched from VisualWorks/ENVY to C# around 2003 we were surprised > to see how bad source code management was in the Microsoft area those days > - and asking around in the usual community groups those days made one > think very clear: the world is thinking in files and noone will not be > able to force these large numbers of developers to change their behaviour. > That's the base problem. > > But we will also not be able to change these large numbers to Smalltalkers > anyway (mostly because it uses "." and NOT ";" or "[","]" instead of "{", > "}" - strange, that so many younger programmers have then problems with > this syntax - seems to come a monoculture of programmers ). > > These days we have git and svn and the quality of tools has improved very, > very much - but limitations of the file based process are still there, BUT > instead of changing the users: the tools available today (e.g. > VisualStudio) do a huge work in the background to give an intelligent view > on these files (where .NET is much better here than Java). So the users > have their loved files and still have some intelligent repository-like > view on the source code - they do not see the difference any more. The > drawback of this approach is the huge-memory-demand of these tools - where > Smalltalk's memory usage is more or less still there where is was 18 years > ago. That's also message. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Stop-Thinking-in-Terms-of-Files-tp4865614p4865800.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
