Christophe,

> Am 23.11.2017 um 09:33 schrieb Christophe Demarey 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> 
>> Le 23 nov. 2017 à 09:08, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 
>> We need to exit Inria and do our own infrastructure. 
> 
> Marcus, could you elaborate? Why do we need to exit Inria?
> Do you have money to pay the infrastructure? Inria provides it for free for 
> the Pharo consortium.
> Of course, the problem is super annoying but the problem is not directly 
> related to Inria. It is related to Renater (national research and education 
> network in France), the network Inria is connected to. An incident is open 
> there. I still have no feedback, so cannot say why it takes so much time to 
> solve the problem.

your view might be too technical here. Aren't you the one that does Cargo so 
dependencies are well known to you? ;)
The point is that it just does not work and it doesn't matter whose fault this 
is. The point is that it is there for a long time and nobody way able to fix 
it. Everyone including you is working so hard on the future for pharo. But this 
behaviour is like a slap in the face of everyone working for pharo. You drive 
away newcomers and people that would like to work with pharo. It is not 
possible to download an image or vm or something from smalltalkhub reliably. 
If this is not fully clear let me tell you what I did yesteray. I resurrected 
an older project and ported it pharo6. In order to download the image I had the 
execute the curl command 6 times in a row and another two times to get a vm. 
Then I tried loading the project with metacello and get a debugger because the 
downloaded archive is corrupt. I need to open the full debugger to see which 
file it is. Then I need to remove the corrupt file from the package-cache and 
restart. And yesterdayI had to do this more then 30 (!!!) times until I could 
load the full project. 

I think it is completely out of question to wait until is able to fix it. And 
if the money of the consortium is not enough to pay such a service then we need 
to put in some more. I'm all ears!

Norbert

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