> On Dec 28, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Kjell Godo <squeakl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> WOW

:)

What part of it do you like?

Cheers,
Doru


> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 01:57 Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
> Hi Luke,
> 
> I am happy this looks exciting :).
> 
> About the confusion part: The Glamorous Toolkit we are working on right now 
> is a complete new world built on a complete new graphical stack that does is 
> not based on the existing stack that ships with Pharo. It is not an 
> evolution. It is a leap.
> 
> The goal of the new GT is to propose a completely reshaped programming 
> experience that enables moldable development. You will find the concepts from 
> the old GT in the new world as well. For example, the Inspector is extensible 
> in similar ways and the API is similar as well.
> 
> But, in the new world, we are bringing the concept much further. For example, 
> Documenter provides a whole new kind of a tool that can mold to unify 
> multiple workflows (like data notebooks, code documentation, or tutorials) 
> right in the IDE. Coder provides the infrastructure for manipulating code 
> that can mold its shape as you type. Transcript allows you to embed various 
> widgets to transform the otherwise dull experience of a console into a live 
> one.
> 
> Behind the scenes GT comes with several engines. The Examples engine enables 
> example-driven development which also bridges the gap between testing and 
> documentation effort, especially when combined with Documenter. Releaser is 
> able to release deeply nested projects. Phlow offers an engine that shares 
> similarities with Glamour. Completer provides moldable completion. Visualizer 
> offers a couple of visualization engines such as Mondrian.
> 
> All of these are possible because of the underlying graphical stack made of 
> Sparta/Bloc/Brick.
> 
> All in all, we believe that the new GT enables a new way of programming. 
> Individual features can be attractive, but our goal is to reshape the 
> development experience.
> 
> Does this address the concern?
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> > On Dec 19, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Luke Gorrie <l...@snabb.co> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 05:13, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
> > Please do let us know what you think .. and, of course, what you feel.
> > 
> > I'm feeling excited and confused :).
> > 
> > Excited because I love seeing all these new demos streaming out and I'm 
> > itching to put new capabilities to work.
> > 
> > Confused about the roadmap. How does this "new" Glamorous Toolkit relate to 
> > the "old" one that I learned about last year from the Moldable Tools 
> > thesis? Is this a new version or a complete rewrite? Is it backwards 
> > compatible or completely reimagined? Is adopting the new version a seamless 
> > process or is porting required? Are frameworks like Glamour still there 
> > behind the scenes or were they replaced? etc.
> > 
> > 
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