Hello
The freeze problem still exist. (since 2017, starting with Pharo 6) 16 April 2019: Today I have loaded Pharo7.0.3-0-64bit-0903ade.image with VM <http://forum.world.st/file/t230630/Screen_Shot_2019-04-16_at_18.png> On my Mac Mini late 2012, mac OS Mojave 10.14.4 (OS up to date, system 100%) Monitor: Samsung U28D590: Resolution: 3840 x 2160 (2160p 4K UHD - Ultra High Definition) UI Looks like: 3840 x 2160 @ 30 Hz Framebuffer Depth: 24-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Note that the same freeze as described previously in this thread still occurs with the latest Squeak version that I have downloaded and tried last week. So this could be a VM problem? I really don't know. All I want to do is write applications with stable Smalltalk/Seaside no desire (and knowledge) enough to dive into the deep and dark catacombs of the VM world. what I did: -opened the pristine image as downloaded today - in Pharo - settings - appearance: changed the general font size to Large. - opened the system browser. - clicked the green bullet in the top left corner (maximize) Pharo hangs/freeze, menus don't work either. Can only exit using Force Quit. The last stable version I did use was Pharo 5.0. The problem is still the same as I have described in this thread in August 2017. I did use Pharo launcher a few weeks ago (having the same problem) but this is not exactly user friendly, saved images where I don't want to. and "Save as from within the image is not respected" I prefer to use just a VM and images, thats good enough for me. Keep it simple. I'd like to spend more time with Smalltalk, preferably Pharo. In essence, I do like new developments like enhanced system browsers and debugging that might improve Pharo. But one might be overshooting the target here, I find rocksolid stability more important, than adding more features, so, this should be the main priority, that is, assuming that Pharo should be deployable in a production environment? It is marked as "stable" but it isn't, sorry. A good house needs a good foundation, same with Smalltalk. But it seems we are living in a culture of nervous deadlines and hasty and frequent updates, is it really necessary? All I want is a one click vm + image, as it was before. simply download and run it. Why git btw? Smalltalk has an excellent version system, by using git there is more dependency impact. Now I am still using Pharo 5.0, the last (to me) stable version of Pharo. Kind regards Ted -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html