On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Robin Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > Guys > > Here are the notes that I made about the meeting today: Hi Robin, Thanks for your notes, which are excellent as usual!
> 1 Robin to investigate the DMG that Nadia sent > - at this moment, Robin hasn't been able to get it to run on Leopard or Snow > Leopard > - it's crashing on startup when libpyexiv2.so is loaded into memory (I think > I can remove or replace it and Phatch will run) > - if necessary, Robin's going to pull down Nadia's branch and use py2app get > build > - Robin's still got outstanding issues for maczip with PIL and ImageMagick > and building Nadia's code will probably clear up those matters OK, getting Phatch to work on Mac is top priority! Probably the libpyexiv2.so is not an universal build, but Robin you know more about this than me. I am sure it is the best in your hands. I would like you to focus first on this before doing other work. > Nadia's build instructions: > bzr branch lp:~nadiana/phatch/phatch-app-new > cd phatch-app-new > python setup.py py2app > http://us.pycon.org/media/2010/talkdata/PyCon2010/038/paper.html#id19 Great! Nadia, I guess you still have some work refactoring out the hacks. Any idea when that will be ready? > 2 Robin to pickup Mac installer work that we hoped Anthony would undertake > - André wants us to post a single DMG with Phatch.app (to be dragged to the > /Applications or ~/Applications) Phatch consists of two applications: the photo batch processor and the image inspector, which are both installed in the start menu in Windows and Linux. I would prefer not to launch the whole Phatch application if I just want to inspect some images. Is it possible to do something similar for the Mac? > - André doesn't like installers because they usually require administrator > privileges So how about installers which don't require administrator privileges? Or is that not an option on the Mac. > - It might be necessary to have several DMGs [small, bigger (with Blender), > fat (with Blender and Inkscape)] I prefer not. Mac and Windows don't have the dependency infrastructure as Linux. So we should give our users a "make it just work out of the box" experience. * We can't expect our end users to know what Blender is. Blender is actually really small (compressed only a few mb) so there is no need to exclude it. Removing Blender breaks the Blender action and two action lists from the library. Also it maybe will confuse people and let them think that maybe they need download and install Blender themselves. There are several issues with this: they might install the wrong version (eg Blender 2.5 which works with python3) and we need to implement more code to find out if there is Blender installed etc... * Inkscape however should never be included as it only deals with opening Inkscape files and not for any action. So it only makes sense for people who use Inkscape anyway. The installer for Windows including Imagemagick and Blender is only 22mb, which is fine. Of course I have removed unnecessary components see the clean_*.bat files: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stani/phatch/trunk/files/head:/setup/windows/ > - I've made no conclusion about this until I investigate. Providing different versions like small, bigger and fat makes also the download page more complex is not necessary. Just concentrate on the same version as we do for Windows. > 3 Robin to send the icon extract code to André (done) > http://clanmills.com/files/ix.zip André, it would be good if you learn Inkscape or a similar program which can produce SVG images. The Phatch actionlist icon according to the Mac HIG is the first, but probably not the last Mac specific icon we need. It would improve the whole process a lot, as in that case it is not just about pointing out the wrong icons (which is very welcome, but doesn't change things), but actually fixing them. > 4 André to get the French translation work done. (Com'on André - it isn't > going to hurt a lot. I'm working on a 200 page German->English manual > translation in the field of Structural Engineering) That would be great! http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:http://www.kompilesoft.info/translating-mac-software-into-french-for-free/ (google cache as main site seems to be down) > 5 André and Robin to discuss the menu bar short cuts (done) André has sent me the proposal, to which I have reacted already. It still needs more work. After this being discussed we need someone to implement it in a branch with updated translations for all languages so it can be merged. > 6) Robin to send the book "Programming in Objective-C 2.0" (Stephen G Kochan, > Second Edition) to André > > 7) Robin's to investigate providing a QuickLook plugin for .phatch files > - André would like to implement this. > - I suspect this is too ambitious for a first project - however let's see > what's involved. Robin, would you agree to mentor him? > If it's as simple as just listing the individual actions to be executed, > this should be quite easy. Rendering images however will have either a > performance penalty or some kind of caching complexity. André, could you first make a screenshot mock up of how the QL preview will look? > - It's very unlikely that this can be ready for 0.2.8. > // coming up > Nadia will be travelling 1 week in June and 3 in July > André will be travelling 1 week in early May > > // sending Phatch for the Mac to Carl (The PyCon Video guy) > I'll give Nadia and update on item (1) above and her and Stani can > communicate this with Carl. Robin, I prefer if you communicate with Carl about issues how to set up Phatch on a Mac. > > // next meeting > Not set. Let's see how we move forward. Please announce next meetings to the phatch-dev mailing lists, so maybe more people can join. > And of course, let's listen to what Stani has to say about the stuff above. It is my pleasure ;-) I need to fix the file associations for Windows in a better way. My time for Phatch might be more tight this month as we have to move house. Keep up the good work! Stani -- Phatch Photo Batch Processor - http://photobatch.stani.be SPE Python IDE - http://pythonide.stani.be _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~phatch-dev Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~phatch-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
