On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:58, Brent Fox wrote: > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 14:41, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 11:25, Brent Fox wrote: > > > The Enterprise line and the changes to the support level of the consumer > > > line will allow the consumer line to move faster than in the past. This > > > will help us address one of the most common criticisms of Red Hat Linux > > > over the years, which is that we aren't as cutting edge as some of the > > > other distros. > > > > Unfortionatly, a lot of us loved Red Hat because they weren't so bleeding > > edge, and we didn't have near as many problems w/ Red Hat's GPL releases as > > we did with various other distributor's GPL releases. I really hope that the > > level of QA that went into GPL releases in the past will not drop. > > We won't drop the level of QA. If we neglect the QA on the consumer > line, it will only make the job of stabilizing the next Enterprise > release that much harder. QA works best when it's a part of the process > of developing software as opposed to something you do just before you're > ready to ship. >
I can live with the enterprise versions, but there's a really bad perception building here through Red Hat PR and comment that users of the consumer Red Hat Linux sole purpose is as a proving ground for the enterprise range and the corporates. :/ As a happy (ish) user of Red Hat 8.0 and a developer. The Red Hats good QA falls on deaf ears sorry. While I like the distro is quality, there is one app which shipped broken and has yet to be seen on up2date. The app I am talking about is 'memprof' broken in the pysche beta's and put into bugzilla. In rawhide for over 3 months - When is the production update likely to come? > However, this change does give us the ability to put in new features > earlier. For example, we will probably ship the 2.6 kernel in the > consumer line before we would consider it ready for the Enterprise > line. So yes, the consumer line will contain code that is less tested > than the Enterprise line, but that doesn't mean that we'll ship 2.6.0 as > soon as it comes out without making sure that it works. > Also updating to the latest swig would be nice. > Getting the 2.6 kernel out there early will help it to stabilize faster > which benefits not just the Enterprise line, but also the next consumer > release as well as other Linux distros. > Very true. > There's public perception to consider as well. One of the reasons why > the Enterprise line is attracting corporate customers is that Red Hat > Linux has a reputation for quality. We're saying that the Enterprise > line takes that quality and puts even more emphasis on reliability and > supportability. If the consumer OS were to be perceived as being low > quality to begin with, then the message about the Enterprise line would > be unconvincing. > Looking at the release notes on the enterprise WS, I see Gnome 1.4. Though I can sell a OS to virtually anyone and Red Hat 8.0's GUI gets responses of the like 'Ooh Nice!". I'd be hard pressed getting them to drop the colourful XP for the lets face it bland Gnome 1.4 on workstations. We live in a visual world where appearance seems to matter to some people - What can I say! Also the listed XFree 4.1.0. I would not like to be the one to tell customers well nvidia cards are the way to go alone. Or if you must use an ATI card, it can't be this, that, this one etc. but not this one or above. Seems the enterprise line for certain things will be good. However for multimedia and anything game/3d related - it's a non-starter. Ah well, roll on Red Hat 8.1. :) Regards Phil -- ICQ: 135463069 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Public key: http://www.philipwyett.dsl.pipex.com/gpg/public_key.txt --
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