> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:47:54 -0500 > From: Audioslave - 7M3 - Live <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: no support w/2.5 kernel installed. Spelling, no big deal 4 me > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The word spellings, different meaning for words like to, too and two are > a bit confusing. > > Some of the spellings are very out of the ordinary. I'd like for other > groups that speak different languages to clean up the spelling, same > sounds for different letters and such cleaned up.
Know much about Esperanto? Sort of an attempt to do that (and wipe out language barriers the world over). My boss is a part of the "Esperantic Studies Foundation". They have a big meeting in San Diego next week... > > Ya got me. I'm a clone. > > I guess that the point that I was trying to convey was the unimportance > of completely correct spelling. When your program does not have a spell > checker, you are pretty much on your own, for spelling. I was attempting humor. I understood your point. Good spelling has its benefits, though. :) > I like mozilla and have heard that there is a current project that > regards a spell checker. I am waiting for it to be included within the > program someday. I still have issues with Mozilla's mail client. Overall, not too shabby, but definitely room for improvement. I use mostly Evolution and Apple's Mail. > > Some of it isn't even a matter of spelling. Some people just aren't that > > handy with the keyboard. To this day, I still believe keyboarding was > > the best class I ever took in high school. > > > I took personal typing for half a year. Computers weren't commonplace > then. I was more in awe with the typing teacher, than typing. Plus, I > never planned on ever needing to know how to type. Nor were they when I took keyboarding. I believe that was the last year my high school taught keyboarding on typewriters. The next year, it was all on computers (486s, iirc). Crap, I sound like a dinosaur. And I'm only 25... Okay, so I'm not spitting out stories about PDP-11s and Cray's "Bubbles", but I know all about those too! > I agree that the keyboarding skills seems to be the major factor for > misspelled words. It is an important skill to be good at. Being able to type fast sure as hell helped get me through a number of classes in college. I typed all my notes and pounded out all my papers the night before on a now-decrepit iBook (now I roll in style, with a PowerBook G4. Speaking of Macs, anybody see the latest Yellow Dog Linux release? YDL 3.0, complete w/Bluecurve, XF86 4.3.0, Gnome 2.2, KDE 3.1, etc). > > A large part of it is a business decision. Maintaining a tech support > > staff isn't cheap, and the job becomes much harder if you don't limit > > support to stable products. > > > > You make a good point on maintaining the stable products to be time > consuming enough. The only problem that developmental items seem quicker > to make changes to correct problems. With "stable" items, bugs are often > hacked around. Yes and no. Okay, sometimes changes come quicker, but I still can't afford a day and a half of downtime on my server while waiting for a fix. Give me the stable version, and take a bit longer on the development versions. Hey, if a hack keeps my server stable, I'm happy. And by the way, with development items, I think a pretty good amount of that would be considered hacking also :). It's usually not considered a hack anymore once it is in the stable product. But your arguments have validity also. That's part of why I always try to run the latest beta on my workstation. > > The biggest profits are in the corporate arena. Corporate > > customers want stable products (and yet some still use Windows, so maybe > > unstable kernels would be okay?!?). > > > > Good points, both for the corporate arena and windows unstable history. > Why not, the market is already used to instability, anyway. Well, part of what I would like to see is a shift, where the market starts to expect that their computer will actually be stable. That is still one of the biggest reasons large corporations go with Linux/UNIX, instead of Windows for mission-critical servers. For kicks, go to <http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html> and notice that out of the top 50 longest uptimes, almost none are anything but UNIX (when I last visited, only 1 Win2k Server, 1 Solaris, the rest some BSD variant). No Linux up there, but Linux is still young (it'll be there soon, and NetCraft isn't 100% accurate). My Linux servers at work have only ever gone down for hardware upgrades, kernel upgrades and entire OS upgrades (from 6.2 to 7.3, most of them) in the two years I've been there. On the flip side, I've crashed my phoebe box pretty good 3x in a month and a half or so (okay, so that was mostly due to a badly ported game, but I think you get the point). > > Um, I think the main difference between a beta release and a development > > release is, for the most part, the name. And you aren't stagnant. > > There's Rawhide and up2date. > > > > Rawhide is new territiory for me. I tried to hold down to up2date or > suggestions by others for bug-fixes. I haven't seen any updates on > up2date since I originally updated to the beta. > Because of my security concerns and no fixes through up2date, I elected > to shoot back to psyche, for the security updates. I haven't figured out > how to fix openssl yet. But for the less dependent programs, I go back > to the earlier, with the errata applied. Remember the old rule: if it ain't broke, don't fix it (unless of course, you have a really good reason :). > > Cowboying is good, too. But you definitely can pick up a lot just by > > participating in these lists. > > > > It is a great to hear other people's ideas and solutions to problems. > When I only read the info and man pages, I didn't get the actual human > solutions and explainations. Yes, man pages will only get you so far. The Linux Documentation Project is a great place to look also <http://www.tldp.org/>. > Spelling and standards are important processes. However, less stringent > standards and experimentatal concepts do add a lot to product advancements. There's a place for both, most definitely. But in many cases, the two have to be mutually exclusive. I'm all for advances and new developments in the kernel, but at the same time, I NEED a stable kernel in my servers (many of the ones I tend to are still running 7.3 right now, for assorted reasons). I'll keep rockin' the beta on my workstation though! -- Jarod Wilson, RHCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "A wise man once said nothing at all" -- -- Phoebe-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/phoebe-list
