I think people (including myself) bring up the mp3 issue because
we believe red hat 'can' be a legitimate desktop threat (not just
a corporate desktop) with the addition of a few multimedia pieces
missing.  Adding these pieces is not trivial for a non-technical
user (mp3, dvd, mpg, avi, etc.) and therefore if they were included
in the base install or an add-on pack, this would further the uptake
of red hat in this demographic.

Personally, I think you guys are selling yourself short in this 
market.  People (including myself) are really looking for an
alternative to closed source software for our daily computing needs
and feel that red hat is very close. 

As for the philosophical reasons, being true to the GPL is 
commendable, I just wish their was another way to 'have our cake
and eat it too."

Todd


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike A. Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>If it only costs a one-time payment of $50-60K to license
>mp3 decoding, why isn't Redhat doing it?

Because:

1) Red Hat would have to write brand new MP3 software from the 
   ground up that does not make any use of any existing GPL 
   source code (because purchasing a license would not satisfy 
   the GPL requirement of patented technology being 
   redistributable without any restriction on redistribution)

2) It would not be true free software under the Debian 
   Free Software Guidelines, and may have distribution 
   restrictions or other restrictions

3) There is no economically viable reason for doing so.  What 
   businesses purchase a Linux distribution because it comes with
   MP3 support?  Or better - which businesses will _not_ purchase 
   a Linux distribution because it does _not_ come with MP3 
   support.

4) Red Hat is an open source company and MP3 is not an
   open source / free software friendly technology

>If it's strictly to appease the GPL then couldn't they ship some type 
>of "add-on" pack that included this feature (and maybe the DVD encoding

>as well.)  This would be similar to the MS markets the Plus Pack and 
>would still allow Redhat to say the OS is shipped GPL compliant.

Laws deal with intent.  Also, shipping it at all would not make any
difference from a legal perspective of wether it was incorporated
directly in the distribution itself, or if it were part of an addon CD
that came with the distribution.

Be realistic.  MP3 support is not something that millions of businesses
out there are crying about missing from Red Hat Linux.  
I would be greatly surprised if 99% of the MP3 using userbase was not
home users, most of whom download the OS for free anyway.

Why do people insist on beating the MP3 issue to death like a dead
horse?  MP3 is not part of the distribution, and that is simply not
going to change.  Get over it and move on.



-- 
Mike A. Harris     ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat



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