Bruce, If I hijacked your eBay account and changed notifications to my e-mail address, would you get a notice of the change of personal information at your e-mail address? The last power seller phishing e-mail I got looked so real to me the only way I knew it was fake was by looking in My eBay my messages. They have gotten that good. A man I work with had his credit card stolen by a guest, the guest called up Discover changed the address, and charged up the credit card, made several payments and my co worker only discovered it when he was trying to get a loan to purchase a new house and the lender asked why his card was maxed out. My coworker then called the police and credit card company and the police said they were too busy so coworker found out where the thief lived and gave the address to the police, the man went to trial and was convicted of a felony. The only other thing I can think of is some people do not check e-mail often, and a number of times I have received spam e-mails telling me someone is wanting to pay me for an item I have never sold or telling me to pay for an item I have never bought. I regularly look at my My eBay page so I would notice if things for sale I did not put there.Steve
> :When somebody hijacks your ebay account and then puts iems on ebay, why > > doesn't the offended party find out immediatiely about the posting. Since > > ebay always sends an immediate confriming email to the account holders email > > address, that would be the "red flag" that signals that illegal activity > has > taken plance and the true owner of the account could then take proper > action > to report it to ebay, pull the posting and change his ebay ID and > password. > Or am I missing something here?> > Bruce From steve_nor...@msn.com Fri Oct 26 10:23:49 2007 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Fri Oct 26 10:23:57 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home E on eBay w/ impossible serial number In-Reply-To: <cf0.1eb748de.34531...@aol.com> References: <cf0.1eb748de.34531...@aol.com> Message-ID: <bay102-w3689028fc496caf22c71c6f6...@phx.gbl> Dear Edison Collector Al and list, Since each ID plate was hand stamped with the serial number one morning Fred who was stamping the ID plates came in with a horrible hangover. His wife had made him sleep outside since he had stayed out so late drinking with his friends. He meant to pick up a 3 but instead got a 9. He stamped it, put the 9 down and picked up the 9 again and completed the serial number. He double checked it and because of his headache and stomachache it looked fine to him. The person who was supposed to double check the serial number, John, had been out with Fred and the only reason he made it to work was the horse knew the way.SteveMost creative theory inventor > Greetings Learned Collectors:> > There is an Edison Model E Home on eBay > that has an impossible serial number, > 994618. Since there were less than > 410,000 Home Phonographs made, does > anyone have an idea why this serial > number is so out of line? I was entertaining > the idea that the seller used > Photoshop to alter the photo of the patent plate > for some reason.> > All > theories welcome.> > Regards to All,> > Al> Edison Collector> > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From steve_nor...@msn.com Fri Oct 26 10:38:07 2007 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Fri Oct 26 10:38:14 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] RE: Internet security In-Reply-To: <20071026133817.d3cf22a8...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com> References: <bay102-w38f9fdb1bfe6f48e409d61f6...@phx.gbl> <20071026133817.d3cf22a8...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com> Message-ID: <bay102-w2330a81d7716f9276ac1def6...@phx.gbl> Dear Rich, All of the passwords are stored on your computer and the program can be installed as a program on your computer or on a flash drive. The program and all the passwords are stored on the flash drive and you can make a master password for the program. When you remove the flash drive it does a cleanup.Steve > Storing passwords / login information etc. on a remote server is no different > from mailing them to me > for safekeeping. All you have is the word of an > unknown individual or website that they will keep > them safe. How many > credit card numbers get lifted from some company who has been storing them > > for customer convenience. You read about that every day. I will not even > bother with the lack of > security that web based email "offers". But think > about all of the free space Google gives you for > storage of all of your > files. Do you really trust them with your tax records? Remote servers > connected > to the internet are a secure as a cardboard box out behind your > garage and just about as difficult to > get into. And they have the added > benefit of having many boxes of individual data in one spot.> > Computer / > internet security is an interesting area and individuals should always > consider the range > of potential consequences of the potential loss of > control of any information carefully before taking any > action.> > > > > On > Fri, 26 Oct 2007 01:14:23 -0400, Steven Medved wrote:> > >For passwords I > like roboform, you can go to roboform.com and if you have 9 passwords or less > it is > free. I have around 100 and I do not have to memorize them. These > days the scams keep on getting > better and better so you have to be more and > more careful. If you have any questions about roboform > you can ask me off > list. I do not sell or make any money from it, but I enjoy making > suggestions.> > > >Best wishes,> > > >Steve> > > > >> > The default does not > store passwords. You have to allow IE to store > passwords.> >> > > >I would > > be more than willing to debate that with you. The password and > >username > is stored by IE if> > you > allow it to do so, this is more than the cookie > that is set when you > > check remember me. The MS> > > email programs will > run several different programs if you allow then to be > > previewed, you do > not > have> > to do anything. They will also execute any scripts imbedded in > the HTML > > if you preview > any HTML> > message. Your information is > correct but somewhat out of date. The > > people who are > getting burned> > > now are the people running a stock system that has not been modified for > > > > secuity, they are still using> > the default settings.> >> >> > On Wed, 24 > Oct 2007 16:50:00 -0700, > Daniel Melvin wrote:> >> >>The previous post > wasn't completely accurate, but there was some good> > >>advise. Change > settings on any email reader to not show the content of the> >>email unless > you > open it. All the issues mentioned below go away. Also, if> >>you use > Automatic Update with any > operating system you have the likelyhood> >>of > such issues go way down as well. Caution is the the > key. Don't open or> > >>respond to emails from anyone you don't know. Don't click on links in > >>> > emails> >>you don't trust. It's fairly simple.> >> >>Also, the ebay password > is not on your computer in > a cookie unless you say> >>remember me on this > computer. Something I never do on any computer for > any> >>password. That > again is not unique to windows. The password is stored on> >>your computer > > by the web page when you click on the remember me on this> >>system part of > the login page.> >> >>> Dan> >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Rich" > <rich-m...@octoxol.com>> >>To: "Antique > Phonograph List" > <phono-l@oldcrank.org>> >>Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:53 PM> > >>Subject: > Re: [Phono-L] Record Price for Edison Army-Navy??> >> >> >>> If > using Windows and either Microsoft > email programs, Outlook or Outlook> >>> > Express, you need to be aware> >>> that Internet Explorer > stores login > information. The email program will> >>> run a script if you open or view,> > >>> an email. > The script will go extract your login info and ship it off> > >>> through the internet. see the linkage> > >>> of the email and the > browser? That is the hole. The script in question> >>> is usually a .vbs > > routine> >>> embedded in an HTML formatted email. Outlook / Outlook Express > run the> >>> ,vbs by > default, you can turn> >>> this "feature" off. Also > turn off displaying HTML emails.> >>>> >>> This is > how you loose your ID > and Password and never filled in anything.> >>>> >>>> >>> On Wed, 24 Oct > > 2007 14:48:20 EDT, aph4...@aol.com wrote:> >>>> >>>>Bruce, I had my eBay > identity AND password > hijacked recently and > >>>>someone> >>>>used it to > put a bunch of Mercedes, Jaguars and Rovers > up on eBay for> >>>>sale by> > >>>>......me! I still haven't figured out how they would benefit from > > > >>>>this.> >>>>But> >>>>I was told by eBay that you don't even have to click > on the links given> >>>>> on> >>>>the phishing site for them to find your > password. You just have to > >>>>OPEN> >>>>a> >>>>> phishing email for them > to gain that information. I certainly don't> >>>>understand> >>>>how they > > can do that. I'm opening fewer emails now!> >>>>---Art Heller> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> > _______________________________________________> >>> Phono-L mailing > list> >>> http://phono-> l.oldcrank.org> >> > >>_______________________________________________> >>Phono-L mailing list> > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________> > > Phono-L mailing list> > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-> l.oldcrank.org_______________________________________________> > >Phono-L mailing list> >http://phono-l.oldcrank.org> > > > > > _______________________________________________> Phono-L mailing list> > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From wilenz...@bellsouth.net Fri Oct 26 11:07:00 2007 From: wilenz...@bellsouth.net (wilenz...@bellsouth.net) Date: Fri Oct 26 11:08:10 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] RE: Internet security References: <20071026145004.183c92a8...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com> Message-ID: <000a01c817fb$01a4d930$6101a...@wilenzick> Unless you check "My eBay" regularly to see if you are "selling" items you don't own, then have the posting pulled before the auction ends. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-m...@octoxol.com> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] RE: Internet security > Once you have the username and password you can change the registered > e-mail. that would be the > first thing to do. If eBay does not detect the fraud, you will never > know. Until the mad feedback hits. > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:53:01 -0400, BruceY wrote: > >>:When somebody hijacks your ebay account and then puts iems on ebay, why >>doesn't the offended party find out immediatiely about the posting. Since >>ebay always sends an immediate confriming email to the account holders >>email >>address, that would be the "red flag" that signals that illegal activity >>has >>taken plance and the true owner of the account could then take proper >>action >>to report it to ebay, pull the posting and change his ebay ID and >>password. >>Or am I missing something here? > >>Bruce >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Rich" <rich-m...@octoxol.com> >>To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >>Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:38 AM >>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] RE: Internet security > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >
