Well, as a fatter of mact, Andy, I'm currently in sort of the same situation. 
Last December, I bid on a couple of radios a guy had for sale, and had the 
winning bid, Sent him a bank money order, and waited a couple of weeks. Sent 
him an e-mail, asking how all was going, and no reply. Another week, and the 
same thing. Subsequent e-mails, some through eBay, and no response. I began to 
send a negative feedback about him, and the 'Bay stepped in and wanted me to 
try to smooth it over THAT, they pay attention to. They said that they'd try to 
get the thing straightened out. Nothing has happened since, and I'm certain, 
never  will. My next move will to send a complaint to the post office for mail 
fraud. I had to do it some years ago, and it worked like a charm.  Once the 
mail fraud thing happens, I'll send a big negative feedback to the jerk. 

eBay is strictly a sales agent. There must be an unbelievable amount of garbage 
like this that goes on. Can you imagine the staff they'd need if they really 
did police it?  They would do well to just state policy that any disputes are 
the problem of the sellers or buyers, and be done with it. They're not fooling 
anybody.


> [Original Message]
> From: Andrew Baron <a...@popyrus.com>
> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Date: 3/25/2008 8:47:43 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Fake auction for Columbia BY
>
> Hi all ~
> This is really frightening, and if anything adds my concern to a  
> number of you who have already expressed concern here on Phono-L,  
> about eBay not taking responsibility to make a safe environment for  
> buyers.  I understand that they rely on us to police auctions for  
> them, and give us a way to report illegal activity, but it's clear  
> that in this case it's only 'lip service'; there's nothing behind it.   
> At all.  Here is their answer to my reporting the illegal re-offering  
> of the Columbia BY recently, which was so obviously a fake auction  
> using a hijacked seller ID.  My original inquiry through their system  
> is below that:
>
> Dear Andrew,
>
> Thank you for writing eBay in regard to image and text theft.
>
> I reviewed your information about the possibility of image and text
> theft. At this time, I didn't find sufficient evidence to show that the
> member has violated any eBay policies.
>
> Please understand that in some situations members will allow others to
> use their images. It's also possible that the members acquired the photo
> from the same source or a source that we can't verify. If this is the
> case, eBay can't remove the listings.
>
> We will be able to take action only if the person who owns the image or
> text writes to us directly. If you feel strongly about this issue, I
> recommend that you contact the seller, informing him or her about your
> concerns and recommending that he or she contact eBay. Once we hear from
> the seller, we will then take the appropriate action.
>
> It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay.
>
> Sincerely,
> Leonora
>
> eBay Customer Support
>
> Original Message Follows:
> -------------------------
>
> Form Message: %43401% 052901
> D_ID032420081105D_ID/W_ID140394085W_ID/S_ID000S_ID
> Subject: VE%X00135 Report link [110236619614 #US 01008T ?01 ]
> User Feedback: 464 
> User State: ?01
> Browser info: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US;
> rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071025 Firefox/2.0.0.9
> Home  >  Help Topics  >  Rules and Policies  >  Rules for Sellers  >
>   Rules about Intellectual Property  >  Item Description and Picture
> Theft > Report link; 65.19.26.202
> Item number(s) reported:
> 110236619614  [$US  US]
> Picture or text taken from item: 270217631060 [$US]
> What was copied: Not my listing, but Title, photos and description
> appear to have been stolen from a recent auction.  Note "seller's"
> instruction to contact via a different email to pay.
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From cen...@comcast.net  Tue Mar 25 19:34:48 2008
From: cen...@comcast.net (Albert)
Date: Tue Mar 25 19:33:10 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12
References: <20080326020150.rtnv17353.aarprv04.charter....@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <000701c88ee9$f624cc30$6501a...@home>

The P-12 is a great early Jukebox.  The only thing you will need to do is 
lighten the tone arm and install a modern cartridge.  This will enable you 
play your 78s without going through the grooves like a plow.  If it has the 
original amplifier you will find it has a very smooth tone with great 
fidelity and volume.  Subscribe to Always Jukin' There are hundreds of 
dealers and jukebox enthusiasts out there.  It is my passion.  I have 13 pre 
war Wurlitzers and well as Seeburgs and Rockolas.  My best source for Parts 
is "Musical fun for everyone"  Bill Butterfield in Napa California.  Al 
Menashe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken and Brenda Brekke" <kb...@charter.net>
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Wurlitzer P-12


>I recently was able to purchase a 1934 Wurlitzer P-12 jukebox.  Can anyone
> on this list refer me to where I can purchase any service manuals or 
> parts?
> Thanks in advance,   Ken B.
>
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