Well the seller is certainly on the mark when he describes this machine as a "rare bird". I'm almost certain that the lucky winner will be getting themselves a ONE OF A KIND machine. I think I should snap this piece of c**p right up. With all the time, discussion, and scrutinizing, and interest we've put into this thing, it would probably be the most talked about addition to any ones collection. I'M SOLD!
-----Original Message----- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:04 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Jr. Phonograph?? If you notice the whole mechanism is much later than 1904. I think it was lifted intact from a portable and put in this case. I think the patent tag was added to cover up the original crank hole. Also the horn looks out of place. I suspect it is a repro witches hat horn for a cylinder machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DanKj" <ediso...@verizon.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>; <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Jr. Phonograph?? > It's a fake patent date, too. Patents are issued on Tuesdays, but Dec 10 > 1904 was a Saturday. Dec 6, yes - Dec 10, nope. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bruce78...@comcast.net> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Jr. Phonograph?? > > >> Am I assuming correctly that someone even fabricated that name plate >> claiming a patent date in 1904? or was that lifted from an actual Oxford >> Jr.? No on 2nd thought it couldn't be real since the Oxford line did not >> replace Harvard until a few years later. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jay Horenstein" <jay.horenst...@gmail.com> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:10:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Oxford Jr. Phonograph?? >> >> Well, the Phillips type screws are pretty much a giveaway, is my guess >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] >> On >> Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net >> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:11 PM >> To: Phonolist; Phono-L >> Subject: [Phono-L] Oxford Jr. Phonograph?? >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200365874976&ssPageName=A >> DME:X:RTQ:US:1123 >> >> >> What in the world is this? The Oxford Jr. is suppose to be actually a >> Columbia Model AP Cylinder type Graphophone at least that is what shows >> up >> in my Sears 1908 Catalogue. The Machine on Ebay even has a round >> Identifying >> plate with a patent date of 1904, I don't believe Sears used the Oxford >> name >> for its machines and records until a few years later. Also look at the >> name >> on the reproducer, it is not Columbia. Are we looking at some sort of >> weird >> Craponola here?? >> >> Bruce >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.26/2257 - Release Date: >> 07/23/09 >> 18:00:00 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.25/2256 - Release Date: 07/23/09 06:02:00 _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.26/2257 - Release Date: 07/23/09 18:00:00 _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
