Any information of CAPS convention? In a message dated 8/13/2009 17:49:15 Pacific Daylight Time, phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org writes:
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Rosenfield Class M (Mike Tucker) 11. Model C Homes and Triumphs (Mike Tucker) 12. Apology (Mike Tucker) 13. Who is the artist on these early Columbia's (bruce78...@comcast.net) 14. Re: Who is the artist on these early Columbia's (DanKj) 15. Re: Hexaphone headboard (rkolba0...@aol.com) 16. Edison Home C bearing (Mike Tucker) 17. Re: Apology (Loran Hughes) 18. Every Morn I bring her Chicken - 1903 Columbia (bruce78...@comcast.net) 19. Re: Edison Home C bearing (Ron L'Herault) 20. Anyone want a Victrola who is near Central New Jersey (srsel...@aol.com) 21. Mikiphone (wayne) 22. EDISON IDELIA D-2 (zonophone2...@aol.com) 23. Re: EDISON IDELIA D-2 (elcamino...@aol.com) 24. Edison Trade Mark decals (Mike Tucker) 25. Advice please - holes in cylinder surface (Chris Kocsis) 26. The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released! (srsel...@aol.com) 27. Re: The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released! (muldwo...@aol.com) 28. recording date for American Odeon Red Seal Opera (bruce78...@comcast.net) 29. Re: Advice please - holes in cylinder surface (Steven Medved) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:12:47 -0400 From: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@bu.edu> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail... Message-ID: <005f01ca178a$aaf04840$4fd62...@ad.bu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The people at my post office are super. They are friendly and helpful. They know what recordings are too. Maybe it is because I live in a small town? Ron L in North Attleborough, MA, home of the jewelry industry in the USA -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:27 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail... Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail. I have received torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail. I can understand the USPS problem with this. That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 years ago. Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb. They know nothing about history. Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison I just love dealing with government workers at any level. clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: > For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new > challenge today. I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived > yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post office as > there was postage due. That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great > lengths to calculate and charge correctly. > > When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter > with my postcard. He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I owed > another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and there > were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL. So, I told him they > were Edison cylinder records. I asked if I could show him. He called over > his supervisor. They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a > cylinder record. Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record. I asked for > the next higher up supervisor. They went and brought back the postmaster. > I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record. He was > unmoved and somewhat uncaring. Just when I thought all was lost, an elderly > postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, and > said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone (sic)!" > SAVED... and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so > the box would be once again just media mail. > > And people wonder why our confidence in the government bureaucracies is > flagging? > > Regards to all, > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:36:52 -0500 From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail... Message-ID: <4a7c8254.8070...@octoxol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Small towns do help. Ron L'Herault wrote: > The people at my post office are super. They are friendly and helpful. > They know what recordings are too. Maybe it is because I live in a small > town? > > Ron L in North Attleborough, MA, home of the jewelry industry in the USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Rich > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:27 AM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Media Mail... > > Many eBay sellers are shipping everything Media Mail. I have received > torque wrenches shipped as Media Mail. I can understand the USPS > problem with this. > > That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education > system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 > years ago. Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb. They know > nothing about history. Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison > > I just love dealing with government workers at any level. > > > > clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: >> For those of us who have battled the US Postal Service there came a new >> challenge today. I won a lot of Blue Amberols on eBay and they arrived >> yesterday with a postcard note from my carrier to go to the main post > office as >> there was postage due. That seemed odd since the seller had gone to great > >> lengths to calculate and charge correctly. >> >> When I arrived at the post office I presented the young guy at the counter > >> with my postcard. He went in back and retrieved the box then told me I > owed >> another $18.75 because they had opended the box after X-raying it and > there >> were no records inside so it could not be MEDIA MAIL. So, I told him they > >> were Edison cylinder records. I asked if I could show him. He called > over >> his supervisor. They allowed me to reach into the box and retrieve a >> cylinder record. Both agreed that it was not a CD and not a record. I > asked for >> the next higher up supervisor. They went and brought back the postmaster. > >> I showed him the Edison box labeled Edison Blue Amberol Record. He was >> unmoved and somewhat uncaring. Just when I thought all was lost, an > elderly >> postal worker getting ready to open his window next to us, looked over, > and >> said, "I used to play records like that on my grandfather's grammyphone > (sic)!" >> SAVED... and then it only took 30 minutes to undo the extra charges so >> the box would be once again just media mail. >> >> And people wonder why our confidence in the government bureaucracies is >> flagging? >> >> Regards to all, >> >> Al >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:50:40 -0400 From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Post office Message-ID: <col118-w272ccf4eca481dc3c0da65f6...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong. I purchased a reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal Money order Certified so I could trace it. It got lost and I went back and ask them to trace it a month later. I was informed the could only trace inside the US. It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her friend who took care of cases like mine. I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea mail when I paid for air mail. In both cases no refund was offered for their mistake. I recently received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not packed properly and no claim could be honored. UPS is worse. Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go wrong. So far all the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived safely. > That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education > system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 > years ago. Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb. They know > nothing about history. Never even heard about some guy named Thomas Edison > > I just love dealing with government workers at any level. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:01:03 -0400 From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items Message-ID: <col118-w167ba324bce72ac0d53662f6...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" UPS loves to damage, my wife heard them drop the Triumph they shipped at the door, sure enough the bedplate was cracked in half as was the carriage. Fortunately I paid the guy extra to mail the reproducer via USPS. Their automated jaws of death sorting system crushed my Triumph horn, they taped up the package and acted like nothing happened, it took me seven months to get insurance reimbursement. When I ordered Toyota radiator coolant and they damaged the box and conta iner they transferred it in another bottle and re-taped it and send in on its way. If you win an auction and they want to use UPS ground, pay the extra few dollars and go with Fed Ex ground unless the item is light and small. UPS likes to penalize heavy and or large things by breaking them. > Hey! I'm a government worker!! > Ever since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by charging dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its cheaper (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if you ask me. UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged shipments from/to me. > John Robles > Ventura County Probation Agency and proud of it!! :-) > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:43:28 -0700 From: Mike Stitt <smst...@gmail.com> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0908071543r19535dc9s754a99bd65ef2...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Snap on dealer has his tools ship to our shop. If it is a new UPS driver after he sits them down I go over and kick the box over. I ask him, didn't you go to UPS school? Kick that stuff around. They rush these guys, they are not careful. Steven was the motor still bolted to the bedpalate? Oh the driver, they get the point. Can't hurt wrenches. Mike OC On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> wrote: > > UPS loves to damage, my wife heard them drop the Triumph they shipped at > the door, sure enough the bedplate was cracked in half as was the carriage. > Fortunately I paid the guy extra to mail the reproducer via USPS. > > Their automated jaws of death sorting system crushed my Triumph horn, they > taped up the package and acted like nothing happened, it took me seven > months to get insurance reimbursement. > > When I ordered Toyota radiator coolant and they damaged the box and > container they transferred it in another bottle and re-taped it and send in > on its way. > > If you win an auction and they want to use UPS ground, pay the extra few > dollars and go with Fed Ex ground unless the item is light and small. UPS > likes to penalize heavy and or large things by breaking them. > > > > Hey! I'm a government worker!! > > Ever since the post office decided to capitalize on priority mail by > charging dimensional rate, I have protested by using Fedex ground. Its > cheaper (especially if you open an account) and it is safer than UPS, if you > ask me. UPS is the only shipping company that ever damaged shipments from/to > me. > > John Robles > > Ventura County Probation Agency and proud of it!! :-) > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:38:13 -0700 From: Mike Stitt <smst...@gmail.com> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Post office Message-ID: <7e8e90ff0908071538k549da61p61249f785a165...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've always wonder why UPS or any shipper doesn't have a specialty handling charge. How many buy a rare item that needs to be shipped and wouldn't be glad to pay extra? I would. Say it is a small package worth $1500. Shipping and worthless insurance $20.00 I'd pay $50 if you got it to me in one piece, maybe more! Hell it's worth that if they would acknowledge what FRAGILE means and treat it so... On the scale that UPS ships could you imagine the extra money............for doing what they ought to do. Mike Oldcranky On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> wrote: > > The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong. I purchased a > reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal Money > order Certified so I could trace it. It got lost and I went back and ask > them to trace it a month later. I was informed the could only trace inside > the US. It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money > order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her friend who took care > of cases like mine. > > I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea mail > when I paid for air mail. In both cases no refund was offered for their > mistake. > > I recently received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting > over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not packed > properly and no claim could be honored. > > UPS is worse. > > Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go wrong. So far all > the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived safely. > > > That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education > > system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 > > years ago. Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb. They know > > nothing about history. Never even heard about some guy named Thomas > Edison > > > > I just love dealing with government workers at any level. > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:32:14 -0400 From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Avoid UPS Ground for heavy or large phono items Message-ID: <col118-w31d06d0ab8f1cfd26c2803f6...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The motor was still bolted to the bed plate and it was in a home made box that had replaced the original Edison case. If the had not dropped it the bed plate would not have damaged. UPS drivers are timed and for the books and light things I get from Amazon.com UPS ground is excellent. My main point is to avoid them for anything that can be easily damaged or has value. If my post saves one phono it will be worth it. > The Snap on dealer has his tools ship to our shop. If it is a new UPS driver > after he sits them down I go over and kick the box over. I ask him, didn't > you go to UPS school? Kick that stuff around. They rush these guys, they are > not careful. Steven was the motor still bolted to the bedpalate? Oh the > driver, they get the point. Can't hurt wrenches. > Mike OC > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "james n. vandrisse" <jnormanvandri...@yahoo.com> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] all 78rpm streaming radio program on Saturday. Message-ID: <685112.87020...@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 (J.M.J.) ? The all 78rpm radio show streaming at www.wtkm.com is now scheduled for Saturday, August 8, 2009 at 11:30am-Noon C.D.T., as it did not air last Saturday. It is entitled The Life and Times of Romy Gosz. Jim VanDrisse ? ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:53:36 -0500 From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Post office Message-ID: <4a7cbe80.8050...@octoxol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Actually, the USPS does have exactly that program for unique and/or high value items. Its called Registered Mail. They even offer actual insurance also. Every Registered item is hand carried into and out of the registered mail truck. registered mail is totally segregated from any other mail. As this is a USPS service that is why UPS, FedEx etc do not offer a competing service. UPS, FedEx, and USPS are not actually offering insurance. Only USPS Registered Mail offers true insurance. If you are interested go read their tariff regulations or the Domestic mail manual. They tell you that it is not insurance. Mike Stitt wrote: > I've always wonder why UPS or any shipper doesn't have a specialty handling > charge. How many buy a rare item that needs to be shipped and wouldn't be > glad to pay extra? I would. Say it is a small package worth $1500. Shipping > and worthless insurance $20.00 > I'd pay $50 if you got it to me in one piece, maybe more! > Hell it's worth that if they would acknowledge what FRAGILE means and treat > it so... > On the scale that UPS ships could you imagine the extra money............for > doing what they ought to do. > Mike > Oldcranky > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> wrote: > >> The Post Office is wonderful until something goes wrong. I purchased a >> reproducer from Peru back in 1994, the clerk said to mail the Postal Money >> order Certified so I could trace it. It got lost and I went back and ask >> them to trace it a month later. I was informed the could only trace inside >> the US. It took me over six months to get a refund on the Postal Money >> order, I finally found a lady that told me to call her friend who took care >> of cases like mine. >> >> I sent a reproducer to Oz and the post office mistakenly sent it sea mail >> when I paid for air mail. In both cases no refund was offered for their >> mistake. >> >> I recently received cylinder records that arrived broken, after waiting >> over thirty minutes a 'supervisor' came out and told me they were not packed >> properly and no claim could be honored. >> >> UPS is worse. >> >> Fed Ex is the only company that is decent when things go wrong. So far all >> the phono items I have shipped Fed Ex have arrived safely. >> >>> That being said, this just goes to show the sate of the US education >>> system since we were blessed with the Department of Education almost 50 >>> years ago. Little Johnny and Janie are just plain dumb. They know >>> nothing about history. Never even heard about some guy named Thomas >> Edison >>> I just love dealing with government workers at any level. >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:13:42 +1000 From: "Mike Tucker" <mtuc...@exemail.com.au> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Rosenfield Class M Message-ID: <000501ca17de$9de46510$d9ad2f...@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Lauren, Would appreciate the following being listed. Mike Tucker (mtuc...@exetel.com.au) ROSENFIELD CLASS M COIN OPS I have purchased two Rosenfield Class M coin op cabinets and am in the process of restoring same. I have all the necessary parts and information except for the repeater and the signboard. I am keen to obtain by purchase, loan, swap, or a combination thereof, a topworks with the Class M Rosenfield repeater. I am also prepared to purchase a complete machine or a wreck, as long as the repeater is present. Transport to Australia can be organised with minimal problem to the sender. If a loan is considered, appropriate guarantees can be provided through senior USA collectors I can supply reproduction Class M parts, including cabinet, motor, governor block or deck in any deal. No Rosenfield Class M's out here, so I would really appreciate assistance to get these rare machines in working order. As I am sure Rosenfield advertised his coin ops, so does anyone have a copy of one of his ads for the Class M coin op? It is different to that used on the later AZ Columbia based machines. If anyone actually has a backboard, a good photo would be a great help. Please contact me on email mtuc...@exemail.com.au Many thanks, Mike Tucker ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:13:42 +1000 From: "Mike Tucker" <mtuc...@exemail.com.au> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Model C Homes and Triumphs Message-ID: <000001ca17de$9db4c990$d91e5c...@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi again Lauren, Would appreciate this one also being posted. Best wishes, Mike Tucker Edison Model C Homes and Triumphs Some time ago I purchased a Model C Edison Home, which is set up for 2/4 minutes with correct Model C parts. A friend is restoring another of these machines and made the point that as these machines were originally supposed to be for 2 minutes only, the bearing hole in the mandrel pillar is too small for a normal 2 minute mandrel to fit and have a suitable bearing. I tend to agree that Edison would not have used an almost paper thin bearing, so the question is what type of mandrel shaft/leadscrew and bearing arrangement was used on the Home and Triumph Model C's? If anyone has one of these with an original 2 minute arrangement, I would love to know the details. Photos would be fantastic and could be sent to me at mtuc...@exemail.com.au. Mike Tucker ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:17:39 +1000 From: "Mike Tucker" <mtuc...@exemail.com.au> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Apology Message-ID: <000001ca17df$2af5ad10$80e107...@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Loran, Sincere apologies for misspelling your name on my two emails. Have rapped my knuckles and promise to do better next time. Best wishes, Mike Tucker ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:39:25 +0000 (UTC) From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: 78-L <7...@78online.com> Cc: Phonolist <phonol...@yahoogroups.com>, Phono-L <Phono-L@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's Message-ID: <783386053.6787231249753165133.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.com cast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I just picked up a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" Columbia Ragtime Comedy songs with piano and vocal. Here are the numbers and titles: "Ain't Dat a Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I bring her Chicken " Baritone Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame" (a ragtime number sounding alot like a take off on "Won't you come home Bill Bailey) could be Bob Roberts, but I am not totally certain, while the "Chicken" song sounds a good deal like Dan W. Quinn, but again I would like to be sure as to who the artist is. Thanks in advance for your help. According to Steve's dating book 378 would be 1901 and 1448 would be 1903. Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:09:32 -0400 From: "DanKj" <ediso...@verizon.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's Message-ID: <49e0edd5cca94cd49180a0a67177c...@moms> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Columbia Master Book says Arthur Collins., for both > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bruce78...@comcast.net> > To: "78-L" <7...@78online.com> > Cc: "Phono-L" <Phono-L@oldcrank.org>; "Phonolist" > <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:39 PM > Subject: [phonolist] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's > > >> >> I just picked up a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" >> Columbia Ragtime Comedy songs with piano and vocal. Here are the numbers >> and titles: "Ain't Dat a Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I >> bring her Chicken " Baritone Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame" (a >> ragtime number sounding alot like a take off on "Won't you come home Bill >> Bailey) could be Bob Roberts, but I am not totally certain, while the >> "Chicken" song sounds a good deal like Dan W. Quinn, but again I would >> like to be sure as to who the artist is. Thanks in advance for your help. >> According to Steve's dating book 378 would be 1901 and 1448 would be >> 1903. >> >> Bruce > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:04:55 EDT From: rkolba0...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Hexaphone headboard Message-ID: <c5f.59ccdf16.37af4...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Are you still looking for a repro Hexaphone headboard? I may have an extra. Bob Kolba In a message dated 7/20/2009 2:10:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ge...@comcast.net writes: A few months ago, someone had some repro Hexaphone headboards (piece above the machine for writing). I'm not sure what the correct term is, but I am looking for this piece for my machine. Can anyone tell me where I might get either an original OR a repro of the Hexaphone headboard? OR, can the person who made these, make me one??? Or, failing that, can someone give me a detailed diagram with measurements and specs so that I can have one made myself?? Thanks so much, Ger _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:55:53 +1000 From: "Mike Tucker" <mtuc...@exemail.com.au> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing Message-ID: <000001ca1873$00dab7c0$029027...@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Received this information from Terry Baer. "Sorry for delayed response. The model C used a unique mandrel assembly with "captured" bearing. Picture an early two minute mandrel shaft. Remove the mandrel and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving the larger 5/8" feedscrew. Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID. Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends. Now slip the whole assembly in the top works." Mike Tucker ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:54:13 -0700 From: Loran Hughes <lo...@oldcrank.com> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Apology Message-ID: <d202ab4d-2b6d-435c-a978-cfe9fb69b...@oldcrank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes No need to apologize, Mike. It happens all the time! Regards, Loran On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Mike Tucker wrote: > > Sincere apologies for misspelling your name on my two emails. Have > rapped my > knuckles and promise to do better next time. > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:11:51 +0000 (UTC) From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: 78-L <7...@78online.com>, Phono-L <Phono-L@oldcrank.org>, Phonolist <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Phono-L] Every Morn I bring her Chicken - 1903 Columbia Message-ID: <1279579587.6915591249837911696.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.co mcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFVv9fg7xU Here is the other posting to Youtube. My guess on this one would be either Dan W. Quinn, or possibly Bob Roberts again. I am having some trouble finding the lyrics for this one, if anyone finds the Lyrics on line send me the site address and will post them when I have a chance. Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:59:40 -0400 From: "Ron L'Herault" <lhera...@bu.edu> To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing Message-ID: <15d16dfd62a54f3484e2add52b74a...@ronlherault> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "You'd be here quicker if you slipped on the top step."* Ron L "Darktown Strutters Ball" into on Edison DD. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 5:56 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Home C bearing Received this information from Terry Baer. "Sorry for delayed response. The model C used a unique mandrel assembly with "captured" bearing. Picture an early two minute mandrel shaft. Remove the mandrel and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving the larger 5/8" feedscrew. Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16 ID. Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends. Now slip the whole assembly in the top works." Mike Tucker _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:27:40 EDT From: srsel...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Anyone want a Victrola who is near Central New Jersey Message-ID: <be2.54b2deb5.37b08...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All! I got the following email from a man in Central New Jersey who wrote: "I have a old Victrola I believe it is a flat top console the wood is in poor condition but the mechanical appears OK and some old records . I live in New Jersey I understand Its not worth much but would be happier to get a few bucks than put it in the trash. Because it weighs so much shipping is a problem.Would you or anyone you know in the Philadelpha area have any interest in this. " He further wrote: "It is in Bayville NJ a little south of toms river . I live in Fanwood NJ" If anyone is interested in this machine, please email me OFF list at: StevenrammATaolDOTcom and I'll give you the man's email address to contact him. Steve Ramm ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:18:47 -0700 From: "wayne" <way...@shaw.ca> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Mikiphone Message-ID: <9994afb3f36a4a448d3ecbdfd3539...@waynepc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all.I have nice all original and fully working Mikiphone for sale.The case has some light wear to the nickel on top only.The resonator is in perfect condition.The needle tin and leather case are missing.I'm asking 515.00 USD + shipping.You can contact me off list at way...@shaw.ca ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:37:50 EDT From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2 Message-ID: <c61.51c88efc.37b2e...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am in the process of thinning out my collection and have an edison idelia d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon if anyone is interested please contact me off list before i put it up thank you zono ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:43:01 -0400 From: elcamino...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2 Message-ID: <8cbe8e3d5b20208-63c-...@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello Mr m---what else u thinking of parting with? -----Original Message----- From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2009 11:37 am Subject: [Phono-L] EDISON IDELIA D-2 I am in the process of thinning out my collection and have an edison idelia d-2 that i will be putting on ebay soon if anyone is interested please contact me off list before i put it up thank you zono _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:02:22 +1000 From: "Mike Tucker" <mtuc...@exemail.com.au> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Trade Mark decals Message-ID: <000001ca1acf$685da340$3918e9...@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have any of the APSCO solvent type large Edison Trade Mark decals to spare? I need 6 of them if possible, but even one would be great. Please contact me at mtuc...@exemail.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400 From: Chris Kocsis <chris...@cox.net> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface Message-ID: <4a835feb.3080...@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked. It was advertised as in excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked like it was. But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the grooves. I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these holes and gets ripped out. I'm attaching a picture. I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never seen anything like them before). Many thanks, Chris -------------- ATTACHMENT -------------- **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** Name: 9100 holes.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 52776 bytes URL: <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg> ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:20:55 EDT From: srsel...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released! Message-ID: <d06.5c4cf130.37b5e...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I just got the new Dust-to-Digital Newsletter and there is BIG news! I'll let you all read about it below. The graphics probably won't come trough so Go to _www.dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm_ (http://dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm) to see the photos. Steve Ramm Having trouble viewing this email? Go to _www.dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm_ (http://dust-digital.com/newsletters/09-08.htm) Newsletter : August 2009 New Release _Click here if you have problems seeing the Au Clair de la Lune video above this line_ (http://www.vimeo.com/6042451) . (http://www.parlortone.com/) Au Clair de la Lune PT-1001 / Single-sided, 45rpm record with etched back Release Date: September 15, 2009 In 2008 the _First Sounds_ (http://www.firstsounds.org/) collaborative corrected the history of recorded sound when it identified?and played back?a recording of the human voice inscribed on paper, in Paris, 17 years before Thomas Edison invented the phonograph. _?douard-L?on Scott de Martinville_ (http://www.parlortone.com/images/clair/scott-2.jpg) entrusted this and other documents with the _Institute of France?s Academy of Sciences_ (http://www.academie-sciences.fr/) in the summer of 1861. With this deposit he sought to establish the priority of his sound-inscribing invention, the _phonautograph_ (http://www.parlortone.com/images/clair/phonautograph.jpg) . He included several phonautograms made in 1860 of vocal scales, songs, and recitations. Example ?No. 5??_Au Clair de la Lune_ (http://www.parlortone.com/images/au-clair-cover.jpg) from April 9th 1860?is the earliest dated sound recording in the deposit. Scott prepared its recording surface by wrapping a sheet of paper around a cylinder which he rotated over a smoking lantern to cover with soot. He recorded with two styli?one driven by the vibrations of a tuning fork, the other driven by a membrane vibrating in sympathy with his voice. He removed the paper from the cylinder and immersed it in an alcohol-based fixative. (http://parlortone.com/) Scott made this recording to be seen, not heard. He sang purposely into his instrument to reveal the shape of sounds and the frequency of his notes. In listening to Au Clair we eavesdrop not on a musical performance, but on a scientific experiment?wafting imperfectly through a window in time. It is with this recording that Dust-to-Digital proudly inaugurates its vinyl imprint _Parlortone_ (http://www.parlortone.com/) . The one-sided, 45rpm record comes complete with an etched back, a descriptive essay and a reproduction of ?douard-L?on Scott de Martinville?s original Au Clair de la Lune phonautogram. _Click here for more information_ (http://www.parlortone.com/) ; _click here to view photographs of the record pressing process for Au Clair de la Lune_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dusttodigital/sets/72157621903891773/) ; and _click here to purchase a copy (in stock now)_ (http://www.dust-digital.com/cgi-bin/xpresscart/store.cgi?p=PT-1001_Au_Clair _de_la_Lune&s=880226100117 ) . ____________________________________ ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:51:09 EDT From: muldwo...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The OLDEST recording is FINALLY released! Message-ID: <d37.4ff8f2ed.37b5f...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks, Steve. I just placed an order for it. Dust-To-Digital is a great outfit, worthy of everyone's support. --Grant ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:04:34 +0000 (UTC) From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: 78-L <7...@78online.com>, Phono-L <Phono-L@oldcrank.org>, Phonolist <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Phono-L] recording date for American Odeon Red Seal Opera Message-ID: <302924873.8183541250204674720.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.com cast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have trouble finding any information regarding the actual recording date: One sided Gold & Red seal Odeon 12" Record made by the American Odean Corp. of New York # Am45014 Don Pasquale (Lass es. o lass es mich horen, Maria Ivogun & Carl Erb with Orchestra recorded in Europe by the Odeon Co. Thanks in advance for your help. Bruce ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:46:26 -0400 From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface Message-ID: <col118-w46f1c52012b9402fb60bc1f6...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I believe I used candle wax to fill in holes on one of my cylinders, but I would have used a broken record. I think it was a wax amberol and I was able to play the record. Are they chipped or melted? I have no idea how the holes got there, but the seller should give you a full refund and pay return postage. E+ does not have holes. Steve > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:35:55 -0400 > From: chris...@cox.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Advice please - holes in cylinder surface > > I just got a cylinder I won on eBay (Edison 9100, Bob Roberts' Everybody > Works But Father) to replace mine that cracked. It was advertised as in > excellent + condition, and as I pulled it out of its sleeve it looked > like it was. But as I turned it to examine it closely, I found a > strange, almost patterned number of deep circular pits among the > grooves. I'm afraid to play it in case the stylus catches in these > holes and gets ripped out. I'm attaching a picture. > > I would appreciate advice (as well as any information on how these holes > could have formed -- I'm not an experienced collector, but I've never > seen anything like them before). > > Many thanks, > > Chris > -------------- ATTACHMENT -------------- > **An Attachment Was Scrubbed** > Name: 9100 holes.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 52776 bytes > URL: <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20090812/f397cb3b/attachment.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org End of Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150 *************************************** _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
