Wow, sounds like the ultimate in Crapophone Horror Shows !! Someone should grab 
and axe and smash it to pieces !! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Bogantz" <gbogan...@charter.net> 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:38:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867 

The motor is a modern electric type - you can see the rubber idler 
wheel, and the platter is a modern type, probably matching the motor 
assembly. The cabinet looks homemade. It appears that the only collectible 
part on it is the ID tag. 

Greg Bogantz 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bruce78...@comcast.net> 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867 


> Sorry, I came in late on this. Someone obviously attached the ID plate for 
> an Orthophonic table model to another Victor. But which Victor did they 
> attach it to ? and what was that crazy little turntable from ? 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barry Kasindorf" <barry.kasind...@gmail.com> 
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:29:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867 
> 
> I think that many Ebay sellers claim ignorance about what the phono they 
> are selling really is when they know full well it is junk. 
> If this was a real onsite auction or estate sale you could more closely 
> examine a piece, get a better feel for it and make a decision. No matter 
> how many pictures you have on Ebay you really don't have the same 
> feeling for an item as you do in person. 
> Saying buyer beware is simplistic in this situation. You still need some 
> sense of honesty and cooperation from the seller if there was a 
> misunderstanding of what the item is instead of the usual glee taken 
> when a novice collector or even a older collector in a hurry 
> misunderstands what is for sale and gets taken. 
> -Barry 
> 
> 
> On 12/15/2009 11:26 PM, brice paris wrote: 
>> I am a little shocked here. Not sure who is being taken, item does not 
>> seem to be misrepresented and the pictures are clear. A bidder has a 
>> responsibility to follow through on their contract win or lose. What am I 
>> missing??? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________ 
>> From: William Buchanan<ret.army...@yahoo.com> 
>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
>> Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 6:20:44 PM 
>> Subject: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867 
>> 
>> Friends, 
>> 
>> It's a hard thing to admit that you've been taken, but the good thing is 
>> that it was not for much and I have not paid him yet. But if this is at 
>> least a real Victrola I will have no problems paying him. 
>> 
>> Can somebody tell me what I purchased? 
>> 
>> Ebay item 220523099867 
>> 
>> They said it is a Victrola VV I-90 but it's not so what is this? 
>> 
>> Thank you Bill 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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