I agree.
But I have a friend who thinks an item is worthless unless he sees it
sell for a lot on ebay then gets more interested in it, and will only
bid on something unless it is extremely cheap or he knows there are <10
known. I keep arguing with him about this but it doesn't seem to matter.
I thought Chuck said 2 more turned up recently, making 9, if he was
already counting those then I guess there are 6. But those last 3 or 4
showed up in the last few showed up recently so there is hope. I guess
it matters if I was going to try and restore a basket case machine.
Unless it is rare it is not worth the bother. But there are things I
have that maybe 3 or 4 exist and they are still not worth much or very
interesting.
-Barry
On 4/17/2011 12:57 AM, Bruce Mercer wrote:
As I said before, I collect these machines not because there are few
known or the $ value. I collect them because they are wonderful
machines. Just because I happen to have a relatively "rare" machine does
not make me the type of collector that has to crow about it. I didn't
bring up the subject of that thread and posted more as a joke.
Apparently I didn't make that clear. I do remember saying that I hope
many more C-1s are found. Everybody should be able to enjoy one. It only
took me 50 years of constant looking to find one.
If there are more than six both myself and Chuck would like to know
about them and their serial numbers.
Can you provide the serial numbers or names of the owners of those other
four (or so) machines? I would be interested,
and I know Chuck would be very surprised, meaning they would have had to
have turned up in the last couple days. If that is the case he will have
a BIG surprise in store. Idle speculation is just that. It's much the
same in collecting reproducing pianos or rare radios like a Zenith
Stratosphere or old cars like a Packard. The unconfirmed babble is often
tainted with a little jealousy, envy....or I'm not sure what. Sad. (just
the facts ma'am)
I do agree with Bill on one point, the C-2 upright is easier to load. On
the other hand, the C-1 doesn't have that much wasted space in the
cabinet. The top part is taken up by the turntable on the left and the
radio tuner chassis on the right. Below are four generous record storage
drawers on both sides of the grill cloth which has two oversized
speakers stacked vertically in the back with a large power amp sitting
on the floor. There is not much dead space. The C-2 has plenty of power
but obviously can't match the power of the C-1. Having the turntable
area lit helps quite a bit in sitting down the pickup but it's still a
bit awkward and is really the only complaint I have with the design. I
'still' want to lift the lid.
Bruce Mercer
----- Original Message ----- From: "bta...@realtick.com" <b...@taney.com>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 3 Known
I hope someday to own a C-2, I think it is just an amazingly cool
machine.
The rarity does not really even factor into it at all. The combination
pickup for lateral & DD, the radio technology, the fact it is the end of
an era. I actually like the C-2 better than the C-1 only in that the C-1
is just so big and looks like a phonograph was jammed in as an
afterthought making record loading etc kind of awkward, although it
certainly is a beautiful piece.
Bill
On 4/15/11 12:05 PM, "Barry Kasindorf" <ba...@barrykasindorf.com> wrote:
Like The Edison C-2, I thought it was so rare I would never hope to
have one. I have had 3. And Chuck Azzalina had 7 in his basement last
time I was there to fix. He started keeping count thinking the number
surviving was in the 10's and stopped at 200 or so known. Same with
C-1. There were 2 know for the longest time, then 2 more showed up
then 1 more now I think there are about 10 or so out there. It isn't
how many but how cool they are. C-1 and C-2 are very special machines
and would be cool if there were 2000 left. I actually prefer if
something I like is common, it means I can afford it :-). Collecting
just so you can say you have 1 of only 2 known is what some people
collect for but I am not one of them.
-Barry
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com>
wrote:
Bruce,
In the case of a machine like yours even if if there are twice as many
existing as are currently known it is a very hard to find machine.
Steve
Steve, I agree completely and hope for collectors interested in these
machines that at least a few more will be found. The thing that
supports the
'few' is that they were made for only a year (more like 10 months),
were
very expensive and a good estimate of orginal production numbered
about 200
machines. Frow wasn't much help. It seems that somebody at the
National
Monument could be a scource of desperately needed information
regarding that
machine and the number mfg.. I bought the machine from Charley H. and
in
talking with him and at least one other rabid collector, those are the
numbers that are known and a good guess as to the number built.
Charley told
me he had gotten the machine from the original owner in N.J., somebody
that
had worked for Edison. There were many old pictures, some autographed,
all
to do with Edison or the Company on the walls, when he got the
machine. He
thought it to be someone high up in the Company.
As far as I'm concerned I hope 100 more turn up sooner than later. It
wouldn't affect the value of mine in the least, not to me anyway.
Spread the
happiness.
Very best,
Bruce M.
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