Is that the only difference? everything else is the same? Did they make one 
with a completely dfferent tone are and reproducer? 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: zonophone2...@aol.com 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:32:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph?? 

HI ALL 
THERE ARE TWO MODELS OF THIS MACHINE 
AS I HAVE TWO KINDS 
ONE HAS A SCREW SPEED CONTROL AND THE OTHER YOU BEND UNDER THE MOTOR BOARD FOR 
THE SPEED 
BEST ALL 
ZONO 










-----Original Message----- 
From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> 
To: phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> 
Sent: Fri, Apr 22, 2011 3:20 pm 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph?? 




Hi John,Even though my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, I have a couple of 

questions: does the paint look re-done? Does it crank and play a record all the 

way through? Does the needle hit the center of the turntable spindle, as it 

would be very difficult to find another tonearm/reproducer that would be 
exactly 

the right length to fit this cabinet, if it has been altered from original. Why 

would anyone go to the difficulty of altering a cheap machine in the first 

place? A portable would have probably been more expensive in the past than this 

machine and these parts don't really look like a portable - look at other 

CrapoPhones for a comparison. Are there extra holes in the cabinet? These 
things 

were made in a time when variations were common, so the fibre arm may or may 
not 

have worked as planned or been too expensive, etc. and may have been factory 

altered with a metal tonearm... who knows? The graining looks good, but if it 
is 

actually supposed to be dark mahogany woodgraining, 

it looks wrong - again variations may have been made, which may still be 

original. Carola and other small machine makers did odd things sometimes and I 

am not sure that the product control was as good as other manufacturers. The 

crank does not appear to stick out too far, and fits the original 

hole/escutcheon from what I can observe... don't totally write it off without 

doing more research. I would email Tim Fabrizio, and ask if he has ever seen 

this machine, as oddballs turn up everyday. If anyone can give you an expert 

opinion on this, I believe that he can. If you believe that it might be 

worthwhile, give the seller a copy of these posts and see if he will come down 

on the price... $100?Curt 



> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:48:17 -0700 

> From: john9...@pacbell.net 

> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 

> Subject: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph?? 

> 

> Hello all 

> There is a phonograph I am considering buying for resale, ostensibly a 

children's phonograph that looks liks a small victrola. It is made of 

woodgrained metal and is nice looking. Can anyone give me an idea of value? I 

know some small phonographs weren't actually children's phonographs, and I am 

interested in the history of this one. Pics can be seen here: 

> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Mini%20Victrola/ 

> Thanks! 

> John Robles 

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