Years ago at a local auction I watched an Amberola 30 go for $750.00. A few weeks later I ran into the winning bidder and we got to talking about phonographs and I asked if he had any for sale. He said he had an Amberola 30 for sale and I responded (before I could edit my mouth from my brain) "You will have to find someone else who does not know what they are doing to buy that one". I can usually win a bid against a dealer and sometimes a collector, but I can never win a bid from someone who doesn't know what they are doing. In a message dated 3/3/2012 11:55:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, smst...@gmail.com writes:
The problem with bidding early is as vinyl states. Also the bidder has a feeling of ownership. That is to say if someone bids they are taking your item away and you will "attack" with a new and higher bid. I use attack because that is just what the lizard brain does...Someone took it away. Sneak attacks are better, last second bidding. Why show your cards? And never forget the person that will BUI, bid under the influence. eBay encourages proxy bidding for a reason. They don't call 'em bidding wars for no reason. Oldcranky On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com>wrote: > > Check the bid history, my point is proven. There is someone who wants that > machine for $1,060+That bidder is:i***l( 1259) > Obviously, he/she was determined to find the previous bidder's limit and > then exceed it, no matter what the item is worth.The lesson to be learned > is this - don't place a proxy bid for more than you are actually > comfortable with paying, because someone will try to get you to your max. > > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 11:04:39 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? > > > > > > Actually, this is the problem with placing "proxy" bids early on eBay. > He probably did not want to pay $1,000, but definitely wanted the machine > and didn't want to be sniped at the end, so placed a high proxy bid to > avoid being outbid. However, he didn't take into account the nutcase OCD > bidders who will keep bumping the bid until they discover your limit. Why > does anyone bid days ahead on eBay, since it's not an actual auction > anyway? The only thing that counts is the last bid. > > > > > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:09:37 -0800 > > > From: john9...@pacbell.net > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? > > > > > > Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh yeah. I get it. I find it amazing anyone would bid > that much for a Standard though. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: George Glastris <glast...@comcast.net> > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:01 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? > > > > > > No, he was bidding against someone else.......but not catching up. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net > > > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:21 AM > > > Subject: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling?? > > > > > > > > > > Check this out..here is an Edison Standard going for over $1,000 on > eBay. The interesting thing is, one bidder placed 13 consecutive bids > within a few minutes, bidding against himself each time, and taking the > price from $599 to $1000. I call shilling. What do you think?? > > > > John Robles > > > > > > > > PAT 1898 EDISON STANDARD PHONOGRAPH WORKING MOTOR! SEE MY VIDEO! > 110+ YEARS OLD! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
