Curt,
 
I assumed it was all the same.  
 
Steve
 

> From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:37:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
> 
> Steve, your record sounds like one to benefit widows and orphans because of 
> the subject matter on the label. I'm still not sure of the purpose of my 
> record with Kaiser Wilhelm at the Mozart Music Verein in NY was. I "GOOGLED" 
> Mozart Music Verein New York and found an article from 1894 about the 40th 
> anniversary of this music club. The Verein (club) was started in New York 
> City in 1854 to further the musical interests in the works of Mozart and 
> other contemporary composers. I can't find anything to indicate that this 
> club had anything to do with providing help or care to German war refugees, 
> but obviously this article is less than complete. I'm puzzled about the 
> purpose of the record, except maybe a historical recording of a concert held 
> for Kaiser Wilhelm? Since there were only several hundred members, the demand 
> for this record must have been low and doesn't seem to be a great choice for 
> a fundraiser for war widows and children, since the Kaiser was mostly 
> responsible for 
 t
> he mayhem created in WWI...Any more ideas?Curt
> > From: steve_nor...@msn.com
> > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:56:02 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
> > 
> > 
> > I have or had one of this series, it shows a widow by a grave with a small 
> > child in her arms and one holding her mothers hand. Thanks, I wondered 
> > about it.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:49:00 -0800
> > > From: majesticrec...@snet.net
> > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
> > > 
> > > According to Note the Notes, a book by Michael Sherman and Kurt Nauck 
> > > there was 
> > > a series of these pictorial labels in 1916 and early 1917 to benefit 
> > > Austrian 
> > > and German widows and orphans during the war. The series ended when we 
> > > declared 
> > > war on Germany. I presume this is one of those series. The patent dates 
> > > listed 
> > > the way they are has this record fall into that time frame.
> > > 
> > > Glenn
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "zonophone2...@aol.com" <zonophone2...@aol.com>
> > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > Sent: Tue, November 13, 2012 3:33:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
> > > 
> > > KURT ARE YOU LOOKING
> > > he knows most records 
> > > you can also contact him at na...@78rpm.com
> > > he runs a good auction
> > > zono
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com>
> > > To: phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> > > Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 10:59 am
> > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A few days ago, I posted this inquiry about an unusual Columbia record 
> > > that I 
> > > found. Someone out there must know something about this record and its 
> > > history...
> > > Here are pics of the front and back:
> > > http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site#!__columbia-record
> > > 
> > > Any info would be appreciated, 
> > > Curt
> > > 
> > > > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
> > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> > > > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:10:35 -0500
> > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I found a 12" one sided Columbia record which has a picture of Kaiser 
> > > > Wilhelm 
> > > II on the label, with the phrases "Gruss an den Kaiser" - (Greetings to 
> > > the 
> > > Emperor) and "Gott mit uns" - (God with us). The number is 59408 - last 
> > > patent 
> > > date is Nov. 30, 1909 and the title is: "Dem Deutschen Kaiser Gewidmet 
> > > Von Dem 
> > > Mozart-Verein in New York" - (Dedicated to the German Emperor Of The 
> > > Mozart Club 
> > > 
> > > in New York). The label is a very detailed and attractive one and the 
> > > record was 
> > > 
> > > made in the US - I can provide pics if necessary. Does anyone have any 
> > > info to 
> > > shed some light on this?
> > > > Curt Angstman
> > > > 
> > > > 
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