I go into many Antique Shops and, like most of you, find nothing.   However,
there are still some nice things out there if you are persistent.  A couple
of months ago a lady working in an antique shop asked what I was looking
for.   After telling her and thinking nothing was possible, she showed me a
picture of an item (on her phone) that a friend was trying to sell.  She
said the lady wanted too much for this "victrola."    It was an Amberola I-B
in quite nice shape!!   The lady wanted $500.   Keep looking!!

Stan Stanford

-----Original Message-----
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Tim Fabrizio
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 11:06 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742


Well, if we want to discuss the past, yes, back in the 70s I did find some
good things in shops. And during the 80s I did well finding things at
antique shows, too. The 90s weren't entirely bad, but much sparser. And
lately ---- NADA. But how about a little ray of sunshine? --- last year
while attending a wedding in VT, I happened upon a shop that was along my
route, stopped in, the guy was somebody I had run into at Brimfield, and he
was marginally interested in phonos. He had a few machines (surprised to see
them), but also some parts, and I bought an Eldridge Johnson ID plate for an
Eldridge Johnson machine which I needed. It wasn't dirt cheap, the guy was
well informed, but it was something one doesn't expect to find.

Cheers, TF.


-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Carli <philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu>
To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Mon, Aug 19, 2013 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742


I seem to do all right in antique shops myself, but the truth is my
interests are wide-ranging and I really don't need any more things, so I'm
more curious than driven.  The Tales Of The Herzog And The Auxetophone are
wonderful, though (capitalization is necessary for such fantastic
experiences), and prove that extraordinary things are indeed still out
there, if pursued with relaxed good humour and modest expectations. I know
one gentleman on this list who several years ago was moved to seek out an
Orthophonic Credenza, which his collection then lacked, because I had just
found a nice induction-disc electric-motored one in a most unprepossessing
Cleveland junk shop for $75. PC ________________________________________
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf
of Vinyl Visions [vinyl.visi...@live.com]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 11:04 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742

I agree with everyone who has had a negative experience with antique
shops... 
the odds are slim and none. Most antique shops call pickers who they know
will immediately buy certain items, so the randomness of the find becomes
very slight. Same with flea markets, unless you just stumble onto something
by chance. I have been in a flea market on the very first day and searched
known vendors for items of interest, only to find that on the last day of
the market someone bought an unusual item from a vendor that I had searched
two days before
- the vendor held items back to show to a certain person, even though they
were not already purchased by that person. That being said, I nominate
Kinney Rorrer for my candidate of the collector with extremely good luck.
Several years ago, he found a Victor 6 ornate horn machine cabinet in an
antique shop for under $100, but his best find was in Greensboro, NC at a
junk shop. He walked in and found an Auxetophone for I think, $135 - then
the ow  ner of the shop informed him that that item was on sale for 20%
off... 
unbelievable.

> From: zonophone2...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 14:25:04 -0400
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
>
> now  tim
> i just bought my second rollmonica with two cranks and a killer 
> columbia by  in a local shop lol zono
>
>
> In a message dated 8/18/2013 10:30:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> phonop...@aol.com writes:
>
> From my  own experience, stopping in antique shops can be more 
> depressing than  fruitful. In fact, I've pretty much given up, 
> otherwise I'd have to take  mega-doses of anti-depressants. The last time
I actually "found"
> something in  an antique shop was years, possibly decades ago. Of 
> course,
there are
> always  the incidents such as John related which will fill the rest of 
> us with resolve  to stop at every antique shop, waiting for that 742 
> to appear -- but I prefer  to enjoy my mental health and not trudge 
> through aisles of discarded  garage-sale glassware. I know that I may 
> sound like a "snob" -- but in fact  I'm too strongly affected by memory of
what antique shops "used"
> to be in the  distant past. What many seem to be now are repositories 
> for what DIDN'T sell  on eBay.
>
> Case in point --- My wife and I were visiting friends in  coastal 
> Maine, "supposedly" a good "antiquing" area. I was bored, so arranged  
> with a pal to make a circuit of the antique shops in the area. Spent 
> all day,  and even attended a yearly antique show that was being held 
> in a school gym.  Many, many "group" shops, some individuals, but at 
> least 20 shops were seen.  The result --- ZILCH. Here's what I saw---
>
> Gem Roller Organ (doesn't  count, not a phonograph) Rollmonica (ditto) 
> VV XI VV  IX Run-of-the-mill Brunswick Diamond Disc C150 Some beat-up 
> Diamond  Discs Crapophone Box that once held a Jewel Phonoparts  
> attachment
>
> So, I suppose the GOOD news is, me not stopping at antique  shops 
> means that everybody else gets all the good stuff I will be missing. I  
> should say, in fairness, that my esteemed colleague Mr. Paul swears by  
> stopping in shops and has found untold bounty in them. I guess somebody up
there likes him!
>
> Best to all, Tim  Fabrizio.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  bruce78rpm <bruce78...@comcast.net>
> To: Antique Phonograph List  <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:12 am
> Subject:  Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
>
>
> I have had that happen as  well, I think many of us have. You kept 
> driving by the antique shop and  something was trying to entice you 
> in, but you didn't act on it, and then  you found out something really 
> special was there, but someone else ended  up with it because you 
> didn't stop when you should have. It is a sick feeling that does stay 
> with you, especially every time you pass the shop again and again.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "john  robles" <john9...@pacbell.net>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"  <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:38:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
>
> You know what the  worst thing is about this? He is from Orange 
> County, which is a couple of  hours away, but he found it in a shop 
> ten miles from my house.
> A
> shop I  have never been to, but meant to go to on Friday! I would have 
> had that machine if I had only gone in there when I meant to!!! Makes 
> me sick...
> John
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tim  Fabrizio <phonop...@aol.com>
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Sent:  Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the  Herzog 742
>
>
> Well, all those Herzogs for cylinder machines used an  "internal" 
> horn, though few seem to have retained them. I like Ken's idea  about 
> replicating them!
>
> Best to all,
>
> Tim Fabrizio
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john  robles <john9...@pacbell.net>
> To: phonolist  <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:21 pm
> Subject:  [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742
>
>
> Here is a pic, sorry, forgot  the link!
>
> http://s197.photobucket.com/user/john9ten/library/Herzog%20742
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