$200 is great unless it has horrible cosmetics and busted springs. Depends upon whether you want form, function, or both. You'll want a Peter Wall rebuild of the reproducer to realize the full acoustic potential, although some ortho reproducers are passable as-found.
Bass on a credenza is better because the horn is larger, of course. Not louder or cleaner, just a little deeper. I had both for a while, side by side, and there's not all that much difference. You'll love the 8-4 after only having listened to pre-orthos. Go check it out and let us know what you find. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com > On Mar 15, 2014, at 5:32 PM, richard_rubin <richard_ru...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks. Why do you suppose the bass response is better on the Credenza -- is > the horn that much louder? Is it that noticeable? And what do you think the > right price range would be? The guy seems to want $200; I doubt he'd go below > $150. And I'm not sure what kind of work it might need... > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Peter Fraser <pjfra...@mac.com> > Date:03/15/2014 7:50 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4) > > I had an 8-4; they sound great. They don't have the bass response that the > credenza has, but they will certainly knock your socks off if you've never > had an orthophonic before. > > Don't sweat the pot metal thing, if the price is right you should buy the > machine and deal with the tonearm mount if you need to later. > > I tend to listen to period-appropriate records on each machine, and an > orthophonic will certainly play up the deficiencies of acoustic recordings. > But you can't go wrong with a big orthophonic like an 8-4! > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Peter > pjfra...@mac.com > >> On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Richard <richard_ru...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I've been offered a Victrola 8-4 (VV 8-4), and I'm wondering what to do. I >> haven't seen it in person yet, so I don't know if it has any pot metal >> issues; does this particular model tend to develop those? And if so, where? >> Just the tone arm mount, or the tone arm itself? How about the reproducer? >> And just as important, how do these machines sound? I've never owned an >> orthophonic before (see other post) -- just earlier acoustic machines, and >> electric machines from the late 1920's on. Do acoustic records sound best on >> acoustic machines? And do later records (say, 1926 and later) sound better >> on orthophonic machines, or electric? I know this is a matter of personal >> preference, but I'd be very interested to hear your opinion. And does anyone >> out there own an actual VV 8-4? If so, how does it sound compared to, say, a >> Credenza, or a high-end Columbia Viva-Tonal? (I've seen the videos on >> YouTube, but it's hard to get a sense of how they actually sound that way.) >> If I want to add a > n >> orthophonic to my collection at some point, would I be much better off with >> a Credenza or some comparable machine? And what would be a fair price for an >> 8-4 in decent condition, assuming it doesn't need any work? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
