ID: 50696 Updated by: bj...@php.net Reported By: endosquid at endosquid dot com Status: Wont fix Bug Type: Math related Operating System: Linux 32 bit PHP Version: 5.3.1 New Comment:
Sir. This issue was recently brought to my attention. On behalf of PHP I would like to apologize. I see that now that you have been treated unfairly. After carefully reviewing this bug report with our board of directors on 4chan, we have come to the conclusion that your "rusty C skills" should be enough to fix the issue. I would therefore like to remind you that ras...@php.net is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmus_lerdorf Again, I sincerely apologize. We will try to stop fixing bugs in PHP. Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2010-01-08 23:22:52] endosquid at endosquid dot com Just look in the mirror, pal. You need classes on how to listen to others. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2010-01-08 23:20:13] ras...@php.net Wow, a classic case of how not to treat unpaid volunteers who provide critical pieces of your money-making infrastructure. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2010-01-08 23:05:43] endosquid at endosquid dot com I get it. Yours is bigger, you've worked better, you are at the cutting edge of everything, and you have infinite resources to test every new version of every piece of software in your stack. Got it. I'm shamed and have no options. So, you're going to give a cover-all answer to make sure that you don't have to do anything. Ok, I get it. I hope no one ever does this to you, because it makes you lose faith in the product. We will push forwrd with patching the source. It would appear that the 1194th line in math.c is the one that needs changing. returning 0 as opposed to returning nothing? I'll edit and compile. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2010-01-08 22:47:04] ras...@php.net I have worked in such environments. Much bigger ones, in fact. Part of your responsibility in your position is to keep track of your tools and the changes coming down the pipeline. 5.3 was available to you as a release candidate in March of last year, and even earlier directly from our revision control system. Many things have changed and there are many many people out there affected by these changes, we recognize that. That is also why we are not likely to reverse a change like this that others in your situation have now accounted for, tested and deployed in production for many months simply because it is inconvenient for you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2010-01-08 22:38:23] endosquid at endosquid dot com Dramatic? You've obviously never worked in a change-request-release environment. We have number_format in literally thousands of places across 50 or 60 separate products. Each of those changes will have to be coded, tested, written-off, released, tested by the clients since this is tax data and has to be precise for tax planning and retirement planning. So, before you go belittling the developers and users depending on PHP, perhaps you should stop and think about the massive effect this change has had on us and not act so dismissive. 5.3.x was not available on our last platform, which is why we are moving to a supported, fairly-recent platform. Why you have so much anger towards this bug is not a proper way to triage or respond to user requests. We have done nothing but explain how this change will massively affect our calculations. Our only feasible option is to patch php back to the old behavior, but my C is fairly rusty and we ran into issues with time testing the ins and outs from buffers in the number_format function in math.c ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. To view the rest of the comments, please view the bug report online at http://bugs.php.net/50696 -- Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=50696&edit=1
