Edit report at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=40296&edit=1
ID: 40296
Comment by: craig at clearbooks dot co dot uk
Reported by: mail at tobyinkster dot co dot uk
Summary: "unless" control structure
Status: Wont fix
Type: Feature/Change Request
Package: *General Issues
Operating System: All
PHP Version: 5.2.0
Block user comment: N
Private report: N
New Comment:
+1 for this language construct it would be awesome
Previous Comments:
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[2013-05-16 20:02:39] charlie at gorichanaz dot com
Well, I maintain I would love to see this control structure implemented. I
understand a non English speaker might not have the same level of understanding
of the word "unless" as a native English speaker, but you can say the same of
any other keyword in PHP or any other programming language written in English,
and I fail to see how that is a valid argument against its inclusion.
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[2013-02-20 18:36:04] email at philsturgeon dot co dot uk
It looks like this conversation dried up after the rather out-of-context
confusion
over unless somehow meaning "more".
Can we move past that please, as it's a ridiculous non-issue.
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[2012-07-30 15:09:00] email at philsturgeon dot co dot uk
Rasmus: toby was not suggesting that "uniqid" is the opposite of "iqid", he is
saying that you can have "un" at the start of a function or keyword without it
automatically flipping the meaning of the next few letters and confusing people
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as you suggested in your comment yesterday.
In neither situation does "un" switch the meaning of the following letters, so
if
it is ok for one function/keyword it should be ok for another, right?
I don't want to argue, I just want to make sure people are clear. I would hate
to
see this conversation derailed by confusion or people loudly agreeing.
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[2012-07-30 15:00:31] ras...@php.net
Now you are just being silly. "uniqid" is "unique id" from the latin root "uni"
meaning one or singular. Makes perfect sense . It isn't "un" anything.
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[2012-07-30 13:19:47] mail at tobyinkster dot co dot uk
FWIW, while Perl does allow
unless (foo) { bar }
else { baz }
I've never seen it in the wild. I've only ever seen unless used without any
trailing else conditions. (And although Perl syntax allows else following
unless, it explicitly disallows elsif following unless.) I'd be perfectly happy
for PHP to forbid both elseif and else after unless.
> It also isn't a very common feature in other languages
Latin had "nisi". Modern languages derived from Latin are all the poorer for
having lost this concept.
> It is an odd word that essentially means not-if even though
> it logically should be equivalent to "more" as in the
> opposite of "more" would be "less" and sticking "un" in
> front of it suddenly completely changes the meaning entirely.
By that logic, uniqid() should return the opposite of the iqid() function.
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