ID:          30506
 Comment by:  rakaur at malkier dot net
 Reported By: rintaun at projectxero dot net
 Status:      Feedback
 Bug Type:    Feature/Change Request
 PHP Version: Irrelevant
 New Comment:

If PHP already does that, then what he's asking for is likely
namespaces.

I've always used PHP as a "quick hack" for some Web stuff; however,
people producing non-Web programs and/or large-scale Web projects would
probably appreciate something like namespaces to better organize.

Pretty much every major scripting language around has some concept of
namespaces.

Of course, this could be worked around by wrapping classes around
everything in included files, but that's not a true namespace.


Previous Comments:
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[2004-11-09 14:45:54] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sure, but PHP already does that. It does not do anything with importing
text, it imports the symbols from the script that runs... I still don't
get it here...

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[2004-11-09 14:34:43] rakaur at malkier dot net

Symbolic includes import the symbol table for the given namespace into
the current namespace (such as in Python, Perl, D, Ruby, Java, etc)
instead of textually replacing the include call with the file's
contents. You more commonly see this used with `import` rather than
`include`.

Since PHP has no notion of namespaces or cleanliness (it just throws
everything into one big namespace) I don't see how this would be
accomplished without some semi-large changes to the way the language
works.

Perhaps something like Perl's `use` (which imports the namespace into
the current namespace, but doesn't do a textual include) versus Pelr's
`require` (which requires you to access the namespace seperately via
`$Namespace::`).

Another way to compare/contrast would be Python's `import' versus `from
<something> import <something`. The former requires the use of a new
namespace, the latter imports symbols into the current namespace.

I hope that answers some questions.

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[2004-11-09 13:11:00] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

And me neither...

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[2004-11-09 10:10:38] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Personally I can't understand what are you talking about.

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[2004-11-09 09:45:16] rintaun at projectxero dot net

PHP uses text includes, ie. it simply replaces the include() call with
the file that is being included. However, symbolic includes are
included.. well, symbolically.

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