ID:               40186
 User updated by:  tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk
 Reported By:      tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk
-Status:           Bogus
+Status:           Open
 Bug Type:         OCI8 related
 Operating System: Windows XP
 PHP Version:      5.2.0
 Assigned To:      tony2001
 New Comment:

As far as any reasonable person would be concerened this most
definitely is a bug. The Oracle database has a datatype called VARRAY
which is similar to the SET datatype in MySQL and the ARRAY datatpe in
PostgeSQL. The problem is that with your API I can write a record
containing a VARRAY column, but it is not possible to read it back
again. How stupid is that? Both MySQL and PostgreSQL can handle such a
simple operation, so why can't Oracle? Are their API authors more
competent?

Telling me that this is a "feature" and not a bug will do nothing to
calm me down. Entirely the opposite in fact. It is your job to provide
an API that allows PHP programmers to read and write all the datatypes
supported by the Oracle database, which you have singularly failed to
do. Blaming somebody else for your failure just shows how totally
unprofessional you are.


Previous Comments:
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[2007-01-30 15:00:34] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>If you had said "Yes, this is a bug,"
There is no bug.
Missing features and bugs are absolutely different things.

>but the problem lies with the OCI API which is supplied by
>Oracle. Let me contact them to get this sorted out" that 
>would have been a satisfactory response.
Please let me decide what to do.
Telling me what to say and what to do in SUCH a way does not help in
motivating me to help you.
If you think this problem should be reported to Oracle - please do it
yourself.

Not PHP problem -> bogus.
If you have anything else to tell me - you're welcome to write me using
my e-mail.
The report is bogus, so no sense to reopen it once again.

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[2007-01-30 14:43:46] tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk

Before you start complaining about my attitude you should look in the
mirror. Your own attitude has been arrogant,  dismissive and unhelpful
right from the start.

If you had said "Yes, this is a bug, but the problem lies with the OCI
API which is supplied by Oracle. Let me contact them to get this sorted
out" that would have been a satisfactory response.

Instead what do you do? You direct me to a totally inappropriate API,
and when I point out that fact you complain that this is not a support
forum. Then you say "I can't fix it therefore it ain't broke" and "fix
it yourself". This type of attitude does not inspire me with any
confidence in your abilities. There is a problem with the PHP to Oracle
interface, yet you don't seem to care and refuse to lift a finger to
help. Is it any wonder that I am totally pissed off?

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[2007-01-30 11:59:58] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Your attitude is that "I can't fix it, therefore it is not my
problem".

It's impossible to fix it using existing OCI calls, therefore this is
not PHP problem.
It's THAT simple.

>What you realy need is a status that says "pending update
>from 3rd party library" instead of the ubiquitous 
>"bogus", which implies that the bug reporter does not know >what he is
talking about.

"Bogus" means "no PHP bug here", which can be surely applied in this
case.
Please don't change the report's status anymore.

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[2007-01-30 11:43:50] tony at marston-home dot demon dot co dot uk

But the point is that you are not helping me to solve this problem.
Your attitude is that "I can't fix it, therefore it is not my
problem".

I do not care in whose code the bug exists, the fact that I cannot read
a record containing a VARRAY is a bug. I can do it with MySQL and
PostgreSQL, but not Oracle. That is a serious deficiency.

What you realy need is a status that says "pending update from 3rd
party library" instead of the ubiquitous "bogus", which implies that
the bug reporter does not know what he is talking about.

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[2007-01-30 11:23:27] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>but there is no such thing as "if it can't be fixed it ain't broke".

Sure there is.
PHP uses countless third-party libraries and bugs in those libraries
are NOT PHP bugs and this is not a place to report them.
Such bugs fall to "Bogus" category, which means they are not PHP bugs
and should be reported elsewhere.

>If the fault lies with the OCI8 interface provided by
>Oracle then I insist that this bug report remain OPEN
>until such time as the OCI8 interface is fixed

You can create a feature request when it's fixed in Oracle.

>Then, and only then, will I consider this bug report to be closed.

You may consider anything you like, but this problem still does not
belong to PHP bug tracker.

Please consider also changing your attitude.
You probably misunderstood something, but "shut up and do what I say!"
is not correct attitude to use with a person whom you're asking to help
you to solve _your problem_.

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