ID:               41614
 Updated by:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reported By:      spetznaz at lnxclan dot com
-Status:           Open
+Status:           Bogus
 Bug Type:         Unknown/Other Function
-Operating System: RedHat es4
+Operating System: *
-PHP Version:      5.2.3
+PHP Version:      *
 New Comment:

Nearly all changes we do during development of a new version a required
for a specific demanding reason (often security). And actually running
into this kind of problem is your very own issue. You should either help
PHP development directly - guess after all it is open source - and if
you are not willing to help then at least you should test new versions
during their release candidate phase. Those phases are publicly
announced and feedback is always been taken seriously. But then that
would be helping PHP of course.


Previous Comments:
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[2007-06-06 20:54:04] spetznaz at lnxclan dot com

Bogus? It is NOT bogus!

WE SPEND HOURS ON THIS CRAP ALL THE TIME!!!!

THIS IS NOT BOGUS!

Ask ANYONE who has been dealing with php for 1 year or more and tell me
if this is bogus.

The bug I am reporting is the inability of the dev team to adhere to
standards that results in wasted time and money to support software that
could be a great tool if the people that write it would take a little
time to think about things before they release them.

Compair php to any other app out there. No one else does this but php
and I would bet my life on it that we are not the only people that get
pissed off about this issue.

At the least, make some docs!

I dont hate php, I hate the way it is released.

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[2007-06-06 20:38:27] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[2007-06-06 20:36:33] spetznaz at lnxclan dot com

Description:
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Description: New versions of PHP mess everything up almost every time.

Reproduce code:
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#!/bin/bash
echo List the worst programmer that works on php
    read first
echo Fire $first, and blame most of this crap on him.
    echo ""
while echo List the next worst programmer;
    read dorks
        do echo Fire $dorks and replace with good programmer;
    echo ""
done


Expected result:
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I expect to see things compile like they did in version 5.2.2. Well, to
tell the truth, now I expect to fight with php every time there is a new
version... Wasted hours/days.

Actual result:
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Nothing works and php does not log anything. Nothing. No docs, no
logs... nothing. The result again is that we spend hours trying to get
php to install and work. Only php gives us this many problems and takes
this much time. Why? Because the dev team does not care about the people
that use this software. If they did, they would not sneak new stuff in a
version that will make php not work like it did. One word...
deprecation. Learn it. Use it.
This should have been called php 6.0 not 5.2.3. 5.x.x should compile,
install and work the same. 


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