On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:47:53 -0400, Vincent Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, > > I did not sign a contract, NDA, or any other paperwork when I was hired. > Just the standard government IRS / Tax stuff. I do not work in the IT > department nor does my position entail anything to do with IT, > programming, or any other technical task besides answering email. >
<disclaimer> I am not a lawyer and have no background in the legal profession, what follows is my opinion only. </disclaimer> If they're "converting it", then it's your property and they need to pay you for it. Even if they're just using your idea, they should be compensating you as they hadn't thought of it themselves. But you will have to contact a lawyer and sue them if you can't get them to pay you yourself. As for the MS weenies, they should be worrying about their Winows servers being hacked much more than using PHP. PHP is proven stable and secure. If there are language-level security vulnerabilities, they are patched quickly. You just have to update, just like with Windows and IIS. They really don't have a leg to stand on abotu security. The vast majority of security problems arise from bad application design or coding. It's far more likely IMHO that the person converting your PHP scripts to ASP would introduce security vulnerabilities. But then again, this is all my opinion. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Gale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 7:41 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DB] Intellectual property rights > > > > Hello, > > > > I am not sure what you could do .. but some companies have it in > the > > contract you sign that all software you create or > > develop while you work for the company are property of the company. > > > > So you may have to prove that it was developed on your personal time > not > > company if you decide to take this further ... > > which should not be to hard with the M$ people. > > > > Michael. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:03:24 -0400 > > "Vincent Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is a bit off topic however it may be something people here have > or > > > will have the unpleasant opportunity to deal with. The company I > work > > > for has been having a problem tracking our customers warranty > > > information and have used paper for items sent in for repair. I on > my > > > own time had created a web based application in php that would make > both > > > issues paperless, and in my own opinion getter overall. Once > complete I > > > informed my supervisor of the application and asked if It could be > shown > > > to the vice president for review, with the condition that this is my > > > application and I own all source and design of the application. My > > > supervisor said he would need our IT department to look it over > before > > > it went to the VP. At the request of the IT department head I > downloaded > > > the files and sql dump of the database to the company's server. The > next > > > day I wad in the IT office talking with the director of IT and a 3rd > > > party company about the functions and design of the application. > Because > > > they are all Microsoft weenies and cant admin a server unless they > can > > > point and click their way to a fix they said php would not be an > > > acceptable language and mysql is not a proper database to run an > > > application on. I informed them I could rewrite this in asp.net and > > > place it on a mssql database. The IT director said they will be > having > > > the 3rd party company just take what I have made, convert it to asp > and > > > build off of it. > > > > > > I approached my supervisor about compensation for the work that was > done > > > since they are using my design. I was told "you gave it to IT, there > is > > > nothing I can do about it" I explained that this was given on the > > > condition that it would be shown to the VP and in hopes that I would > > > either gain a transfer to IT, be awarded a contract to provide the > > > solution and maintenance, or maintain my current position with a > slight > > > raise and I will maintain and built onto the application. > > > > > > I went up the chain to my supervisors boss and explained to them > what > > > had happened and that since they are using my design and altering it > to > > > another language that I would like to be compensated for my work. I > was > > > told that I did nothing but give them an idea and they were really > doing > > > all the work since what I did was not good enough and their > computers > > > could not understand what I wrote. > > > > > > The IT dept refuses to run anything besides Win Servers using IIS. > They > > > will not install PHP ( too many hacker problems they say). > > > > > > Did I just screw myself? Do I have any protection of my design? Can > I do > > > anything? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Vinny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Michael Gale > > Network Administrator > > Utilitran Corporation > > > > -- > > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- > PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > !DSPAM:41180b0a313921571316053! > > -- DB_DataObject_FormBuilder - The database at your fingertips http://pear.php.net/package/DB_DataObject_FormBuilder paperCrane --Justin Patrin-- -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
