Does it make sense for PHP to seed rand() with srand() when it starts up, during MINIT in basic_functions.c? It just seems that there is no good way to ensure you have a good seed for random, and if rand() were "ready to use, out of the box" a lot of people would not be pulling their hair out trying to fabricate a clean seed. Besides one should seed only once, more often than that circumvents the "randomness" of a random number generator. On UNIX we could seed rand() with /dev/urandom, else we could use time of day. (Any other suggestions would be welcome.) -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]