At 00:34 02/01/2002, Manuel Lemos wrote: >What you are saying is that when I make a suggestion people become >emotional and work very hard to raise as much objections as they can >instead of staying rational and try to see the benefits of the >suggestion.
It's about how you make the suggestions, Manuel. "vital to prevent PHP to leak even more users to other languages" is a pretty annoying sentence to read. In case you're not sure what it means - it means that: (a) PHP is 'leaking' lots of users today (b) If we do it, it'll go on leaking as it does today (c) If we don't - it'll leak even more If people indeed become emotional about suggestions you make (I certainly don't) then you probably have earned it yourself. At any rate - I did not contradict you. On the contrary, I said I think it's important, even very important. I'm saying that the position you usually take, which is kind-of like the biblical prophets telling everybody they're wrong and what they must do to prevent hell from breaking loose, isn't one that's going to earn you much interest in your ideas. You may try the positive approach instead, especially if you're just pitching an idea for somebody else to implement, with no intention of doing anything about it yourself. You think that my behavior is so predictable, you didn't even appear to read what I said. If it wasn't too transparent I'd be saying that it was your response which was quite predictable - you always do that when people don't cry in joy in the sound of your ideas... Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
