Hello,

Andi Gutmans wrote:
> 
> At 12:44 AM 1/2/2002 +0000, Nick Loman wrote:
> 
> >Hello PHP developers,
> >
> >Interesting to think about what might make a nice foundation technology
> >for all the exciting potential of PHP5. SOAP is obviously an important
> >technology for websites in the future. But given that (I guess) most of us
> >are not really that keen to follow in the nervous footsteps of Microsoft,
> >and given that XML brings me out in a horrible rash, why don't we think
> >about CORBA as a fundamental PHP technology?
> >
> >CORBA is now finally in a state where people can actually use it
> >without running away screaming. There are now enough free implementations
> >on enough platforms to enable mainstream PHP support. David Eriksson
> >has done some nice stuff with Universe/Satellite, but I don't think PHP's
> >CORBA support is currentl "plug n' go" enough to really be capitalised on
> >(it currently relies on a fair amount of knowledge of CORBA).
> >
> >What would be fantastic is a situation where newbie PHP coders feel
> >confident enough to use CORBA services exposed to the Internet (not many
> >exist at the moment, the "classic" example is Random.org but this
> >could change). If it was easy enough to start interacting with ORBs
> >exposed to the 'Net, and it was easy enough for PHP developers to write
> >their own net-facing ORBs, we could potentially be facing an interesting
> >paradigm shift whereby PHP users are exposing their interesting objects
> >(which may, e.g. provide access to databases, content) to the 'net. Much
> >sexier than say RDF, no?
> >
> >If anyone would like to help me in my quest to make CORBA more mainstream
> >(CORBA isn't really scary, at its most basic its just cross-platform
> >remote procedure calls) I would love to work with you.
> >
> >All the best for 2002 everyone,
> 
> We are going to try to improve the object overloading in ZE2 so I suggest
> not working on this before we see what we can come up with. Basically we
> are just trying to make it easier for people to overload objects from C and
> make it a bit more powerful.
> In the meanwhile you can still play around with different Corba
> implementations and choose how you're going to do it but I suggest waiting
> because it'll hopefully save you lots of headaches.

Yes, adding and maintaining static CORBA interfaces is an hell to deal
with IDL compilers and stuff, but I think dynamic invocation fits well
with the nature of PHP.

You may want to talk with Lukas Smith and Gavin Sherry as I heard them
talking about adding some kind of CORBA support to PHP.

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

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