pear/SOAP seems to work pretty well.  There are few people out there that
know more about SOAP than Shane and I am quite comfortable having him
spearheading this effort.  We can easily set up a php-soap mailing list if
enough people are interested.

-Rasmus

On Thu, 23 May 2002, Lukas Smith wrote:

> Yeah, I keep seeing PHP SOAP and XMLRPC being announce packages
> everywhere.
> But incompatible API's will not benefit PHP much and the efforts are
> simply redundant.
>
> I think it would make sense to create such a mailinglist.
> As I am still fairly busy with working on a merge of Metabase and PEAR
> DB called MDB (blatant plug :-) ) I can't spend as much time as I would
> wish on this topic.
>
> For now I will try to order the feedback I get and put together a little
> static page with the content.
>
> Basically I will take every package I find and list it there and put any
> comments people send regarding that package underneath.
>
> Best regards,
> Lukas Smith
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:53 PM
> > To: phpsurf; Markus Wolff; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> >
> > I think it's important to have a main stream soap implementation
> bundled
> > with PHP and not a zillion different implementations floating around.
> > If there is enough interest we could setup a Soap mailing list where
> > interested people could cooperate possibly basing the "official" PHP
> Soap
> > implementation on existing work, for example, Brad's work. As I
> personally
> > don't have the knowledge nor the time I'm just making the suggestion
> :)
> > It's up to people who are interested in this topic to move it forward.
> > I think it would be extremely beneficial to PHP.
> > Andi
> >
> > At 17:52 23/05/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> > >hi
> > >
> > >brad lafountain is working on a Soap extension which is not far from
> > being
> > >stable.
> > >he made a good use of WSDL ...
> > >
> > >you should have look to
> http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb "Lukas Smith"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > > > What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in
> php?
> > > > >
> > > > > How mature are the solutions?
> > > > > When will they be ready for primetime?
> > > > > Does anyone already use them in production (that can be used to
> show
> > off
> > > > > how great the support is) or are there any other prominent
> examples?
> > (I
> > > > > know the pear installer uses XMLRPC and Sebastian did something
> with
> > > > > Googles Webservices)
> > > >
> > > > We´ve been trying to make a PEAR::SOAP webservice talk to a VB.NET
> > SOAP
> > > > client. It does work very well when you stick to passing most
> > primitive
> > > > datatypes around: Strings, Integers, Floats, Booleans ...
> > > >
> > > > It stops being fun when you´re trying more complex structures like
> > > > resultsets from SQL-Queries. Those could be represented and passed
> via
> > > > SOAP as two-dimensional arrays, and in theory you could either use
> a
> > > > loosely typed two-dimensional array or an array of struct to
> represent
> > > > that data in the VB.NET client - but we did not yet manage to make
> the
> > > > client recognize and deserialize the SOAP data from the PHP
> script.
> > > >
> > > > I have not the slightest idea where to start looking. I´ve read
> tons
> > of
> > > > articles on SOAP and WSDL, but all in all, the quality of
> > documentation
> > > > on this topic sucks.
> > > >
> > > > PEAR::SOAP itself is as good as undocumented (at least the server
> > part)
> > > > and the documentation for .NET webservices mostly talks about
> > connecting
> > > > an ASP.NET webservice to a C# or VB.NET client. When it comes to
> > making
> > > > SOAP calls to a client/server on another software platform, or
> even if
> > > > you just want to use SOAP-RPC encoding instead of the default
> > > > Document/Literal encoding that .NET does, the documentation is
> very
> > > > uncomplete.
> > > >
> > > > Thing is, you _have_ to use SOAP-RPC encoding because PEAR::SOAP
> does
> > > > not yet support Document/Literal (in fact, Microsoft seem to be
> the
> > only
> > > > ones who use this encoding method by default or even fully support
> > it).
> > > >
> > > > I guess when it comes to maturity, all available implementations
> in
> > any
> > > > language still have a long way to go.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >   Markus
> > > >
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