Hey, I don't think we need a whole new vision for PHP. PHP's vision has always been "to be the best web scripting language out there with a focus on ease of use". I think for most of us this hasn't changed. Sure it's cute that you can do other things with it but let's be realistic; the focus of PHP is the web and PHP is competing in the web applications market. I guess as a hypothetical goal we should aim for 100% of dynamic web applications being run on PHP.
I think that writing down what we should be doing in the next few months to take PHP one step further could be nice, but as Rasmus said, someone's going to have to do the work. I also think that writing a roadmap might just lead to 10,000 Email's being sent about all the cool features people want from 1000 different languages and we'd have a huge list and no code. Well maybe 10 of those would make it in to a release. I think setting up the php-soap@ list was a good first step. It's getting people to discuss things and hopefully we'll have *one* native SOAP implementation in the default PHP relatively soon. Hopefully there will be a consensus on that list on how to move forward. It'd be a shame if there'll be zillions of Email threads but no official SOAP, XML, XSLT, DOM/XML layer. Important things I think should be addressed in the next few months are: - A native and official "Web services" implementation. For those of you who hate the general term I'm talking about SOAP, WDSL, UDDI and strong DOM/XML, XSLT, XML support. - Improved scripting language (I've already packaged an alpha of ZE2 w/ PHP-4.3.0-dev and will put it up in the next couple of days so people can play around with it). It might not cover everyone's wishes but it does cover enough to take PHP one step further IMO. Doing too much at once can end up being lethal. - Stable Apache 2 implementation including real connection pooling across thread's in MT mode. - Improving I18N (mostly done by the Japanese group). - Seeing the evangelism guys come up with some nice ways of marketing PHP. I'm including this because I think it's of great importance although it's not a technical issue. I'm sure you guys can think of a million things but if I'd have to pick big main topics I think these would be them. Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php