Samantha,

I think you and Michael are applying a certain "tone", and taking offense, 
with Paul's question of whether the group was aware and involved in what 
could have been a decision making discussion, or if it was only the 
secretaries. This is a voting members right to ask. Paul, and others, have 
made it clear that secretary actions should be monitored, based on past 
incidences. Not only should secretaries properly moderate this list, as 
their duty, but members should also moderate the secretaries to ensure they 
do not overstep again.

While I do feel the PSR-8 discussion should have been posted to a broader 
audience I do not feel it was necessarily handled inappropriately this 
time, because no actual decisions were imposed. So let's move on, unless 
someone feels it should continue for some reason.

All,

This silly discussion of whether the secretaries over-stepped again really 
shouldn't be happening, in this case, because PSR-8 shouldn't exist. The 
topic of PSR-8 has come up many times over the past couple years. It was 
cute, but we need to move on. We should be able to shrug it off as the joke 
it was. Let's stop applying the rules of "serious" PSRs to such a thing and 
get rid of it.

Regards,
Adam


On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 9:42:52 PM UTC-4, Samantha QuiƱones 
wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> I already talked about this in the other thread. Continually antagonizing 
> Michael is not an appropriate way of addressing whatever issues you may 
> have with the way he conducts himself as a secretary of this organization. 
> Likewise, attempting to press your definition of our role as secretaries by 
> repeating it ad nauseum is not an appropriate way of addressing your 
> disagreement with how it has been described and executed. You are a voting 
> member of this organization and you are free to bring these matters up for 
> a discussion and vote as you see fit. What you cannot do is abuse this 
> mailing list, and your colleagues in the organization, to drive a personal 
> agenda. It shouldn't be necessary for the secretaries to moderate your 
> messages to this group. 
>
> Please stop. 
>
> Thanks,
> Samantha
>

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