Count me in!

On Mar 28, 2017 5:01 AM, "David Négrier" <david.negr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey list!
>
>
> PSR-11 has been accepted so we have standardized how to fetch entries from
> containers.
>
> The next logical step is to find a common way to put things into a
> container. More generally, the goal we are seeking is to make it possible
> for a package author to provide/modify entries in any container (rather
> than having to write a module/bundle for each framework as it's the case
> today as I described in this talk: https://thecodingmachine.
> github.io/forumphp2016talk/index_en.html#60).
>
>
> Let's be clear that the goal is NOT to define a single way of configuring
> a container. Each container has its own strategy (configuration files,
> autowiring, PHP code...) that makes it worthwhile. What we are trying here
> is to find an additional *shared* way of putting things into a container
> specifically for package authors. Because it's almost impossible for
> package authors to write a bridge for every framework out there).
>
>
>
> Also, since FIG 3.0 has passed, it's time that we officially create a
> working group.
>
>
> As a reminder, we (the container-interop participants) explored several
> strategies:
>
>
> - unified file format
>
> - common interfaces for container definitions
>
> - common interfaces for dumping PHP code representing container definitions
>
> - service providers
>
>
> I have summarized this in those 2 blog posts:
> https://www.thecodingmachine.com/psr-11-an-overview-of-
> interoperable-php-modules/ and https://www.thecodingmachine.
> com/psr-11-get-ready-for-universal-service-providers/ .
>
>
> The conclusion we reached was that standardized service providers are the
> way to go. Among many criteria, they are easy to write, and if done right,
> can be properly optimized by compiled containers.
>
>
> We started working on it at https://github.com/container-
> interop/service-provider/
>
>
> Work is well advanced: we have prototype integrations available with the
> major frameworks out there.
>
>
> There is still a lot of work to be done:
>
>
> - Recently, Rasmus Schultz came up with an alternative proposal. The idea
> is that rather than trying to provide factories to the containers (what
> service providers do), a module could provide its own container and publish
> to the "main container" the list of entries it contains. Rasmus detailed
> the idea here: https://github.com/container-interop/service-provider/
> issues/40 . This idea looks a bit like the "delegate lookup feature" that
> was removed from PSR-11 in the philosophy (several containers running
> side-by-side), but is different in the implementation. I'd be interested to
> gather feedback from the community on Rasmus' proposal (I suspect it might
> be complementary to container-interop/service-provider rather than
> opposite)
>
> - With the current proposal, we can already add services and extend
> existing services. We need to know if we want to be able to do more (like
> adding/extending services conditionally based on the container's
> configuration). More generally, we need to discuss the exact scope of the
> PSR (limited to simple use cases? extended?)
>
> - Finally, there will be a huge amount of work waiting for us in the
> nitty-gritty (exceptions handling, etc...)
>
>
> I'm hereby calling *interested members to step up* to create a working
> group, and for member projects to give as much feedback as possible. PSR-11
> has made a big leap forward in the very last days because "big players"
> joined the party a bit late :). For this PSR, it would be great to have
> some feedback from you guys early on in the process.
>
>
> ++
>
> David.
>
> Twitter: @david_negrier
>
> Github: @moufmouf
>
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