I am happy to sponsor AzuraCast's membership.

2 week clock starting... now. :-)

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  Larry Garfield
  la...@garfieldtech.com

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, at 5:29 AM, Vincent de Lau wrote:
> Hi Buster,
> 
> Welcome AzuraCast! Per the bylaws, the application for membership of a 
> project needs a sponsor who is a current CC member or Project 
> Representative. After the sponsor has confirmed your application, a two 
> week discussion period starts before a vote is called.
> 
> --
> Kind regards,
> 
> Vincent de Lau
> PHP FIG Secretary
> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 4:14:35 AM UTC+2 Buster Neece wrote:
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > A few years ago, before my term as secretary began, I had expressed 
> > interest in joining the PHP-FIG as the representative of my flagship web 
> > application, a project called AzuraCast (https://azuracast.com/), which is 
> > a self-hosted open-source web radio management suite.
> > 
> > At the time, this discussion was tabled and no vote took place, but after 
> > further discussions with folks on the PHP-FIG team, I'd like to reintroduce 
> > the question of adding our project as a Member Project as part of the FIG 
> > group.
> > 
> > While AzuraCast is, itself, an end-user facing application, there is 
> > nothing in the guidelines for who can be a member project that specifically 
> > says membership only applies to libraries that are used by other 
> > developers. In fact, the supporting text encourages applications of all 
> > sorts (as long as they are active in production and aren't "aspirational" 
> > in nature) to join as Member Projects. In fact, we're an excellent 
> > case-in-point of the value of the PSRs in everyday development: because our 
> > project has existed in some form since 2012, many of the underlying 
> > libraries we've depended on have come and gone, but because we've adopted 
> > the PSR interfaces wherever possible, switching out for new libraries has 
> > been a far simpler process.
> > 
> > Our application is certainly active in production, with tens of thousands 
> > of radio stations operating today using our application suite. We adopt, 
> > require or specifically inject dependencies based on PSRs 3, 4, 6, 7, 11, 
> > 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18. Our team is also responsible for maintaining 
> > several "upstream" libraries that *are* used by other developers which 
> > implement the PSR standards even more directly.
> > 
> > As for why membership is so important to us when it isn't necessary for us 
> > to communicate or participate in the FIG process: I think the simple 
> > gesture of serving as a member project of the PHP-FIG is an important 
> > symbolic one. In explicitly saying that we support, will implement, and 
> > help guide the PHP-FIG standards, we're throwing the weight of our 
> > thousands of combined person-hours of open-source contribution behind what 
> > the FIG stands for. While the base of developers building on top of our 
> > application may be small, the base of users we have is increasing at a 
> > rapid pace, and in my opinion it matters that more projects speak up in 
> > support of groups like the FIG to help keep them front-and-center in the 
> > minds of our developer peers.
> > 
> > As I'm currently operating as one of the Secretaries for the PHP-FIG, I 
> > wouldn't also be able to serve as the project's representative for the 
> > immediate term, so I've discussed this with our second lead developer named 
> > Felix Bachmann and he would be willing to serve as the project 
> > representative in the event it's approved to join the FIG.
> > 
> > For that same reason, I wouldn't be able to conduct any sort of vote on the 
> > matter myself. I will rely on the other secretaries to help in this regard.
> > 
> > Thank you for your time and consideration!
> > 
> >  - Buster Neece
> > 
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