Sorry folks... if there was another email thread on this trying to move it
along, I somehow missed it... and if Discord was deemed the official
replacement to replace the email group for such communications, I must have
missed it too... I haven't had enough space in my office area to keep my
OSS laptop open 24x7 like I used to do.

I'll catch things up in the next week or so... I have something going on
late this week that will get in the way, which is why I think it could take
me into next week to catch things up.
CRB

On Tue, Jul 5, 2022, 03:58 Andreas Heigl <andr...@heigl.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 05.07.22 10:17, Alessandro Lai wrote:
> > What's the status on the spec? IIRC is basically complete, right? We just
> > need to push it to the approval vote...
>
> There are still unresolved PRs regarding timezone issues.
>
> The spec is in the same state as it was almost a year ago. Since then I
> have tried at least twice to get it towards an approval vote but neither
> the sponsor or the editor were responding nor was the CC taking any
> actions.
>
> In at least the last try from my side to get to a readiness vote was
> also the option contained to take over the responsibility of the PSR.
> There has been no response whatsoever regarding that.
>
> Cheers
>
> Andreas
>
> >
> > It would be a shame to abandon it now, when it's so close to the finish
> > line...
> >
> > Il giorno domenica 3 luglio 2022 alle 19:15:37 UTC+2 Larry Garfield ha
> > scritto:
> >
> >> The PSR-20 working group has been inactive for many months now (it's
> been
> >> 10 months since any changes to the spec document[1]), far longer than
> the
> >> allowed time for a working group to be inactive. The Editor, Chris
> Seufert,
> >> has been inactive and unreachable via Discord in the WG's channel for
> >> several months. The Sponsor, Chuck Burgess, has also not responded to
> >> messages on Discord in the WG's channel.
> >>
> >> Per the bylaws[2]:
> >>
> >> -----
> >> The Editor or Sponsor of a Working Group may step down at any time by
> >> informing the Core Committee via the mailing list. If the departing
> >> individual specifies an intended replacement from the Working Group
> >> membership, that individual will assume the vacant role immediately, by
> >> Implicit Approval. If necessary, a Decision Vote to appoint a new
> Editor or
> >> Sponsor may be held following a suitable nomination period.
> >>
> >> Should a Working Group be missing an Editor for 60 days; be missing a
> >> Sponsor for 60 days; have insufficient active members for 60 days; or
> show
> >> no signs of activity for six months, then the Core Committee may hold a
> >> Decision Vote to name a new Editor or Sponsor, following a suitable
> >> nomination process. One of the options in that Decision Vote must be to
> >> dissolve the Working Group. If no suitable candidates for Editor or
> Sponsor
> >> may be found, then the Working Group is automatically dissolved.
> >> -----
> >>
> >> At this time, the PSR-20 WG is inactive. There are four possible next
> >> steps:
> >>
> >> 1. The Sponsor becomes active again and nominates a new Editor who can
> >> complete the PSR and bring it to a vote. If there is a dispute over who
> the
> >> Editor should be, the CC will hold a Decision Vote.
> >>
> >> 2. The Sponsor may step down as Sponsor, in which case a new Sponsor
> from
> >> the CC will need to step forward. If there is a dispute over who the
> Editor
> >> should be, the CC will hold a Decision Vote. The new Sponsor will then
> take
> >> step 1.
> >>
> >> 3. Neither the Sponsor nor Editor are heard from, so the CC appoints a
> new
> >> Sponsor and Editor by Decision Vote.
> >>
> >> 4. The working group is dissolved and PSR-20 is listed as abandoned.
> >>
> >> Of note: Other current members of the working group[3] are eligible to
> be
> >> the new Editor, but the Sponsor must be a member of the Core Committee.
> >>
> >> If nothing happens within 2 weeks, I believe we should declare option 4
> >> enacted by default and the WG abandoned.
> >>
> >> (I would personally like to avoid option 4, as I really do believe this
> >> spec is valuable and should be completed.)
> >>
> >> [1] https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/tree/master/proposed
> >> [2]
> >>
> https://www.php-fig.org/bylaws/mission-and-structure/#working-group-management
> >> [3]
> >>
> https://github.com/php-fig/fig-standards/blob/master/proposed/clock-meta.md#53-working-group-members
> >>
> >> --
> >> Larry Garfield
> >> la...@garfieldtech.com
> >>
> >
>
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