php-general Digest 3 Apr 2006 00:02:13 -0000 Issue 4049

Topics (messages 233085 through 233090):

Re: microsoft PHP ?
        233085 by: tedd
        233086 by: Miles Thompson
        233087 by: Zouari Fourat
        233088 by: tedd

return path of mail function
        233089 by: Andrew Darrow
        233090 by: Chris

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At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote:
Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!

You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said "Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it." There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again.

If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides.

tedd
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At 11:38 AM 4/2/2006, tedd wrote:

At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote:
Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!

You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said "Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it." There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again.

If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides.

tedd
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Ditto to what Tedd just wrote - a major client has a project stranded forever in VB6 because MSFT broke the model with VB.NET. There are constructs and structures which were perfectly legitimate when it was first conceived, when VB4 was the current version.

So - when I was asked to write a little app to maintain some subscriber billing info and create some reports on the desktop side, which could have been done in Excel, I opted for PHP, PHP-GTK and MySQL. There was a learning curve with PHP-GTK's layout (Glade helped a lot!!) but this will continue to work, Windows or Linux, and should run on later Macs.

Great feeling!

Miles

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the best april joke i got :)

On 4/2/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote:
> >Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be
> >the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR!
>
> You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$
> QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said "Nope, the line isn't
> making the money we want, so we're dropping it." There were a lot of
> developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again.
>
> If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides.
>
> tedd
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At 5:00 PM +0200 4/2/06, Zouari Fourat wrote:
the best april joke i got :)

It wasn't a joke.

M$ has one thing on their mind, and that is $.

If their bottom line isn't improved by whatever they produce, then they drop it. If it hurts thousands of developers who supported their product in process, then that's to be expected -- after all it's M$

That reminds me of story about a young girl who in the middle of winter came across a poisonous snake laying in the snow. She picked up the snake and took it in doors and placed it by the fire and gave it warm food and drink and saved the snake's life. The snake, after being revived, bit her. She proclaimed "Why did you do that? I saved your life and now because you bit me, I'll die." The snake replied "I don't understand your confusion, you knew I was a snake when you found me."

Whenever possible, I now take the fork in the road not traveled by M$.

tedd

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I'm having a problem setting the return-path using the mail function. I seem to 
be able to modify any of the other header information I want, but not this one 
item. 

Here's my code:
$headers =  "Return-Path: Test <test@test.com>\r\n" .
   "From: Test <test@test.com>\r\n" .
   "Reply-To: Test <test@test.com>\r\n";

$sub="Test sub";
$msg="Test msg";

$to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";

mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers, '-f test@test.com');




And here's the headers that come in: 
Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:19:45 -0500
Received: from nobody by amsterdam.servershost.net with local (Exim 4.52)
 id 1FQ933-00082V-8q
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:19:45 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test sub
X-PHP-Script: www.drewpydraws.com/crap.php for ip address
From: Test <test@test.com>
Reply-To: Test <test@test.com>
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:19:45 -0500
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.1.385 [268.3.4/299]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

The "From" and "Reply-To" get set correctly so it works fine on e-mail clients, 
but some of the messages will be delievered to cell phones that display the 
return-path instead of from and reply-to. 

Any thoughts on how I would go about setting the value for Return-Path?

~Drew
www.drewpydraws.com

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Andrew Darrow wrote:
I'm having a problem setting the return-path using the mail function. I seem to be able to modify any of the other header information I want, but not this one item.
Here's my code:
$headers =  "Return-Path: Test <test@test.com>\r\n" .
   "From: Test <test@test.com>\r\n" .
   "Reply-To: Test <test@test.com>\r\n";

$sub="Test sub";
$msg="Test msg";

$to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";

mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers, '-f test@test.com');

No space between -f and the email.

I assume your host doesn't have safe-mode on? (You can't use this method if so).

Check a phpinfo page and look for:

sendmail_from

If that's set, this way won't do it either, you'll need to do:

$orig_sendmail_from = ini_get('sendmail_from');

// this should match what phpinfo tells you but replace the email. so might be '-f'.$return_path
ini_set('sendmail_from', $return_path);

mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers);

and leave off the last parameter.

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