php-general Digest 26 Jul 2009 01:37:11 -0000 Issue 6249
Topics (messages 295832 through 295836):
Re: Question on code profiling
295832 by: Daniel Kolbo
Re: Compare PHP settings of two different servers
295833 by: Dave M G
Re: This is the kind of [expletives deleted] answer that is certain to prevent
bugs being reported.
295834 by: Per Jessen
295835 by: Tom Worster
Language translation
295836 by: Skip Evans
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Andrew Ballard wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Andrew Ballard<aball...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From what I can tell, the numbers I see in WinCacheGrind
>> look like they are off by about a factor of 10 pretty
>> uniformly.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
> Apparently the difference is indeed WinCacheGrind, as a number of
> other people have left comments on the project site that the values it
> reports need to be multiplied by 10. Now that I know the numbers are
> "right" comes the fun part. :-\
>
> Andrew
>
Is this factor of 10 business only for ZF on Windows IIS or for Linux too?
thanks,
dK
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Bob,
Thanks for replying.
Another thought comes to mind. What text encoding are you using and what
are the locale settings on those servers?
I try to ensure UTF-8 is the only encoding used, as much as possible.
Unfortunately, on the server that is misbehaving, it is the one where I
don't have shell access, so I'm limited in how much I can poke and prod
at its settings.
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Dave M G
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Lupus Michaelis wrote:
> Per Jessen wrote:
>> See http://bugs.php.net/?id=48612
>
> I don't understand too the answer. For me it is obvious it is a bug
> because it breaks the system locale behaviour.
>
Thanks, I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this.
/Per
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Per Jessen, Zürich (18.1°C)
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On 7/25/09 6:27 AM, "Per Jessen" <p...@computer.org> wrote:
> Lupus Michaelis wrote:
>
>> Per Jessen wrote:
>>> See http://bugs.php.net/?id=48612
>>
>> I don't understand too the answer. For me it is obvious it is a bug
>> because it breaks the system locale behaviour.
>>
>
> Thanks, I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this.
to many people, a documented bug is like a false truth: it simply cannot
exist. the premise is that a bug, by definition, is not documented. if it's
documented then it's a feature and a feature is never also a bug.
i'd wager that one devotee of this doctrine would be the bug checker who
shot off that superior, sneering insult in the disposition of your bug
report.
if that response was a standard text built into the bug management system
then it suggests the doctrine pervades the culture on the team.
in my view, the premise doesn't hold up very well. we can all think of bugs
that could not reasonably be be debugged by documenting them. hence there is
a zone in the spectrum between "obvious bug" and "obvious non-bug". saying
"go away and rtfm" when discussing behaviors in this zone is not respectful.
failure of a cli program to behave idiomatically under unix (or that finnish
os that shares so many of the idioms) is arguably a bug -- it's in that
zone. the response you got, per, was a cheap brush-off.
btw: i think setlocale() is not the right place to document the "feature"
that php cli ignores standard environment variables.
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Hey all,
We got a new project and language translation of content is a
major priority. I've googled around and seen lots of options,
but I'd like to hear from the list about more real world
experiences about what some of you found and what both you as
a coder and the client were most satisfied with.
Big Hugs,
Skip
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