php-general Digest 12 Apr 2012 23:44:44 -0000 Issue 7773

Topics (messages 317540 through 317544):

Re: a fractal of bad design
        317540 by: marco.behnke.biz
        317544 by: Ross McKay

Flat PHP projects and Firebug
        317541 by: Mihamina Rakotomandimby
        317542 by: Louis Huppenbauer
        317543 by: Kranthi Krishna

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Daevid Vincent <dae...@daevid.com> hat am 12. April 2012 um 02:06
geschrieben:

> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
> 
> Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in
a
> dickish way.

Well, he only says what everybody knows. So there is no new thing in it.
And I don't understand why people use tools that they hate.

I do not dislike PHP because of its disadvantages, I like it because of its
advantages,


Marco Behnke
Dipl. Informatiker (FH), SAE Audio Engineer Diploma
Zend Certified Engineer PHP 5.3

Tel.: 0174 / 9722336
e-Mail: ma...@behnke.biz

Softwaretechnik Behnke
Heinrich-Heine-Str. 7D
21218 Seevetal

http://www.behnke.biz

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On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:06:10 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:

>http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
> 
>Can't say he doesn't have some good points, but he sure goes about it in a
>dickish way.

"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about
and the ones nobody uses." -- Bjarne Stroustrup
-- 
Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia
"The chief cause of problems is solutions" -Eric Sevareid

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Hi all,

For "flat PHP" projects (I mean without framework such as Jelix or Symfony), what Firebug logging tooldo you recommend to use?
- FirePHP?
- in-the-code Javascript console.log() generation?
- other tools?


These are for training project, not really real-world ones, in order to train juniors/newcomers to our team.

I missed the name of a PHP class or library that allowed to use breakpoints and so with Firebug... or some similar things...



--
RMA.

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2012/4/12 Mihamina Rakotomandimby <miham...@rktmb.org>

> Hi all,
>
> For "flat PHP" projects (I mean without framework such as Jelix or
> Symfony), what Firebug logging tooldo you recommend to use?
> - FirePHP?
> - in-the-code Javascript console.log() generation?
> - other tools?
>
>
> These are for training project, not really real-world ones, in order to
> train juniors/newcomers to our team.
>
> I missed the name of a PHP class or library that allowed to use
> breakpoints and so with Firebug... or some similar things...
>
>
>
> --
> RMA.
>
> --
> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>
>
Hi there

I think that firephp could do the trick for you.

http://www.firephp.org/

Sincerely
Louis

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I never had a problem with FirePHP. Among other tools I have used,
some gave "Headers already sent" problem. The rest failed in case of
AJAX requests.

AFAIR Breakpoints are used for debugging and are different from
Logging. For debugging you may have a look at xDebug

Kranthi.
http://goo.gl/e6t3



On 12 April 2012 18:10, Louis Huppenbauer <louis.huppenba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2012/4/12 Mihamina Rakotomandimby <miham...@rktmb.org>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For "flat PHP" projects (I mean without framework such as Jelix or
>> Symfony), what Firebug logging tooldo you recommend to use?
>> - FirePHP?
>> - in-the-code Javascript console.log() generation?
>> - other tools?
>>
>>
>> These are for training project, not really real-world ones, in order to
>> train juniors/newcomers to our team.
>>
>> I missed the name of a PHP class or library that allowed to use
>> breakpoints and so with Firebug... or some similar things...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> RMA.
>>
>> --
>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>>
>>
> Hi there
>
> I think that firephp could do the trick for you.
>
> http://www.firephp.org/
>
> Sincerely
> Louis

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