> You _actually_ print() or echo() everything you want to send to the
> browser?

Absolutely. We've replaced every HTML tag we use often with PHP functions.
We separate content, style, layout, and logic so using 100% PHP is the best
for us.

> if you have ever worked in a fast paced production environment, where html
> is changed sometimes 5 times a day, digging through hundreds of lines of:
>
> echo "<input type=\"text\" name=\"hello\" size=\"20\" value=\"$value\">"
>
> starts to make you insane.
>
> speaking as an html author, and a lover of php, _please_:
>
> <input type="text" name="hello" size="20" value="<?=$value?>">
>
> it makes the code useable.

IMHO even better is:
input_text('hello', 20, $value);

that's how that would appear on our site. We order the parameters logically
and include a catch all final parameter that will add text to the HTML tag.

> echo "<html>";
> echo "<head>";
> echo "<title>$title</title>";
> echo "<link rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'
> href='resources/css/$css.css'>";
> echo "<script src='/resources/js/base_lib.js'
> language='javascript'></script>";
> echo "</head>";
> echo "<body bgcolor='#EEEEEE' text='#000000' link='#003366'
alink='#CCCCCC'
> vlink='#003366' topmargin='0' leftmargin='0' marginwidth='0'
> marginheight='0'>";
> echo "<table border='0' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'
> bgcolor="#000000">";
> echo "<tr>";
> echo "<td valign='top'><img
src='resources/images/binarycloud/tmpl/fire.jpg'
> alt='' width='466' height='161' border='0'></td>";
> echo "</tr>";
> echo "</table>";
>
> it introduces a whole world of unnecessary complexity.
>
> to prove my point:
>
> get one of your friends that knows html but not PHP to look at the above,
> then this:
>
> <html>
> <head>
> <title><?=$title?></title>
> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="resources/css/<?=$css?>.css">
> <script src="/resources/js/base_lib.js" language="javascript"></script>
> </head>
> <body bgcolor="#EEEEEE" text="#000000" link="#003366" alink="#CCCCCC"
> vlink="#003366" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" marginwidth="0"
> marginheight="0">
> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"
> bgcolor="#000000">
> <tr>
> <td valign="top"><img src="resources/images/binarycloud/tmpl/fire.jpg"
> alt="" width="466" height="161" border="0"></td>
> </tr>
> </table>

On our site that would more like:

(comments)

(include files)

(page specific variables)

html();

head($title);
head_css('stylesheet.css');
head_script('script.js);
x('head');

body($style)
table(0, 0, 0, '100%', '', BLACK);
tr('top'); td(); image('fire.jpg'); x('td'); x('tr');
x('table');

x('body');
x('html');

Well it would be a bit different because we have other logic and comments
throughout, but you get the "jist" of it.

BTW "image()" calls "img()" but adds the appropriate image directory to the
path. img() is a function that creates the img HTML tag along with
automatically finding out and adding the width and height parameters. I
can't imagine going back to manually editing those every time I change the
image dimensions.

We have many people who contribute to this site. Some of them are content
editors with no technical expertise. Simply saying "saty away from code in
(these) tags" is not enough. 1.they don't have the HTML know how 2. I'm not
risking even that much access. They don't go anywhere near an editor or FTP
program, they do everything through interfaces we (the tech team) builds.

............. Jade Ohlhauser
[website architect]........... http://bandwidthplace.com




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