> The IDE+Debugger combo really looks great, esp. because of the debug
> support being AWOL in PHP4.

I'm a little bit irked about that actually, they obviously stopped the
"free" development on it, and moved it in house. But I guess you gotta put
food on the table :)

I really would prefer to have debug info printed to a browser instead of
_only_ accessible through their IDE. anyway.

> I'm a little worried about the IDE being written in java tho...I hope its
> not as slow/memory hungry/crash happy as the other java + JRE apps I've
> used...

That's getting a bit better, I've got a couple apps that run fine on win2k
that are java. they're memory pigs but that's the multiplatform life. also,
you're sort of screwed if you want to go X + windows, without maintaining
two separate codebases, so I understand the choice.

plus, swing is very mac-esque, so I approve :)

> Too bad there's not an evaluation version available for download.

I've sent mail to one of their sales guys, adam, about that. The 30-day
"evaluation" is pretty funny: you have to pay $100 for it. (come _on_)!

_but_, for me the "encoder se" is worth the $800 right out, I can ensure
some values stored in my apps right now are ripped up in a binary, which is
extra-extra-groovy for security.

-alex


> Ben
> 
> At 03:15 PM 1/23/2001, you wrote:
>> ola all,
>> 
>> has anyone used the zend ide+debugger?
>> 
>> before I slap down $800, I'd like to know if people who have think it's
>> groovy..
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> _alex
>> 
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